Are HY Spreads “Too Low”?

0
Are HY Spreads “Too Low”?
In my conversations with clients a common topic of interest is that of US high yield credit spreads.  Indeed, it’s almost the opposite issue of the stockmarket – if you think S&P500 PE ratios are too high, you probably also think that US High Yield credit spreads are also too low. But what is “too low” and from a timing standpoint, how should we think about it?

Get The Full Ray Dalio Series in PDF

Get the entire 10-part series on Ray Dalio in PDF. Save it to your desktop, read it on your tablet, or email to your colleagues

I discussed this issue in depth in the latest weekly macro themes report, and it is a running topic due to its importance for active asset allocators.
The chart of interest: US HY credit spreads vs the economic cycle indicator - the chart says credit spreads basically should be low because the cycle is good at this point.

clost

The chart shows one of about half a dozen indicators we track on US HY credit spreads. Much like equities, it's not enough to say an asset class is overvalued (or that credit spreads are too low).  From a practical standpoint you need a framework or set of indicators which incorporate multiple variables such as the economic cycle indicator which is shown in this article.
At this point the economic cycle indicator (a combination of the PMI and jobless claims) is pointing to solid economic fundamentals and if anything is pointing to lower spreads! The time to get worried about spreads being too low is when this indicator starts to turn.
The other time to get worried is when other indicators point to caution, for example the credit managers index, the Fed loan officer survey (due out this week - expect some insights from this in the upcoming weekly report!), inflation expectations, bank CDS, Fed rates, and the VIX among others.  While there are a couple of "orange lights" (vs the green light in this chart), from a timing or practical standpoint there's nothing yet to suggest impending doom for US HY credit.
That said, our view is neutral, at best, on US HY credit - it's one question about tactical/timing decisions, but the biggest question is are you being adequately compensated for taking on credit risk at a time when the credit risk premium is so low?
What's your view on US HY Credit Spreads? And how do you approach the issue?
This article originally appeared as a submission at See It Market

Updated on

Li Lu And Greenwald On Competitive Advantages And Value Investing

Li LuIn April, Li Lu and Bruce Greenwald took part in a discussion at the 13th Annual Columbia China Business Conference. The value investor and professor discussed multiple topics, including the value investing philosophy and the qualities Li looks for when evaluating potential investments. Q3 2021 hedge fund letters, conferences and more How Value Investing Has Read More

Topdown Charts: "chart driven macro insights" Based in Queenstown, New Zealand, Topdown Charts brings you independent research and analysis on global macro themes and trends. Topdown Charts covers multiple economies, markets, and asset classes with a distinct chart-driven focus. We are not bound by technical or fundamental dogma, and instead look to leverage any relevant factor to capture the theme. As such, here you will find some posts that are purely technical strategy, some that just cover economics and data, and some posts that use multiple inputs to tell the story and identify the opportunities. Callum Thomas Head of Research Callum is the founder of Topdown Charts. He previously worked in investment strategy and asset allocation at AMP Capital in the Multi-Asset division. Callum has a passion for global macro investing and has developed strong research and analytical expertise across economies and asset classes. Callum's approach is to utilise a blend of factors to inform the macro view.
Previous article What You Need To Know About Broadcom’s Bid for Qualcomm
Next article Warren Buffett vs Pepsi CEO

No posts to display