China vs. US: World War 3 Over Some Tiny Islands?

With reports that China was furious to find one of U.S. destroyers sailing close to disputed islands, political experts are weighing in whether or not Beijing has what it takes to respond to such U.S. “provocations” with military force.

It was reported earlier today that the USS Lassen sailed within 12 nautical miles of one of China’s claimed islands in the disputed South China Sea. Beijing called such actions to be damaging “peace and stability in the region.”

“These actions of the US warship are a threat to the sovereignty and security of China, and safety of people living on the islands; they damage peace and stability in the region. In this regard, the Chinese side expresses extreme dissatisfaction and strongly protests,” the statement posted on China’s Foreign Ministry website says, according to Interfax.

It is also suspected that the U.S. warship could have been accompanied by one or two U.S. Navy surveillance aircraft, which have conducted frequent reconnaissance flights in the area, according to an unnamed U.S. official, as reported by Reuters.

The U.S. Navy stated that additional patrols could take place in the coming weeks, which raises concerns whether China will be as restrained as it was today or whether it will be prepared to respond militarily.

Beijing: We are ready to respond to “provocations”

What particularly offended China was the fact that the USS Lassen destroyer was on the mission to pass by the Subi and Mischief reefs, which belong to the Spratly archipelago, which China considers its own sovereign territory.

Beijing was closely monitoring and tracking the movement of the U.S. warship when it “illegally” entered the area near the disputed islands, China’s Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday. The statement issued by the Foreign Ministry also said that the U.S. decided to sail into the “sovereign territory of China” despite “repeated warnings” from Beijing.

“China consistently respects and defends the freedom of navigation and flight of any country in accordance with international law. However, it firmly opposes any country harming [China’s] sovereignty and security under the pretext of freedom of navigation and flight,” the official statement said.

The Foreign Ministry also added that China will defend its sovereignty, security and rights in the maritime space. And the Chinese side is “ready to give an appropriate response to any country’s provocations,” according to the statement.

So from the words of official Beijing, China is indeed prepared to take military action as a response to U.S. “provocations,” which in this case is the U.S. warship sailing close to the disputed Spratly Islands.

The alarming incident comes weeks ahead of a number of Asia-Pacific summits scheduled in November, in which both Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. President Barack Obama are expected to attend. But with reports that the U.S. could be sending more of its patrols to the disputed area in the coming weeks, there is a high risk of escalating tensions between Washington and Beijing before the two leaders meet.

More U.S. warships are expected to sail in South China Sea soon

Admiral Harry Harris Jr., the top U.S. military commander in the Pacific, expressed his concern earlier this year that China could take advantage of the disputed islands to obstruct sea or air navigation.

But Washington has repeatedly said that it would send American ships into the waters of the disputed area to surround China’s artificial islands and show U.S. commitment to “freedom of navigation.”

“Make no mistake: The United States will fly, sail, and operate wherever international law allows, as we do around the world, and the South China Sea is not and will not be an exception,” U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in a speech just two weeks ago.

“The Subi and Mischief Reefs are low-tide elevations which no state can claim as territories. To deny Chinese illegitimate territorial claims, the U.S. Navy needed to physically challenge it. Otherwise, China establishes no-go zones in the high seas and hinders freedom of navigation,” said Tetsuo Kotani, a maritime security specialist at the Japan Institute of International Affairs, based in Tokyo.

If U.S. invades China’s interests, Chinese military will counter the American threat

There is still a chance that the incident will go down in history as an incident that merely made some noise in the media. But the problem around the disputed islands is not going to go away on its own.

Sooner or later, unresolved problems emerge. In the best-case scenario – the incident will be settled diplomatically between the two sides of the conflict. In the worst-case scenario – the U.S. will send more of its warships into the disputed area, which China claims its sovereign territory, and the Chinese might attempt to respond with force. One thing will lead to another, and we will face the World War 3 over some tiny islands in South China Sea.

China and the U.S. are currently standing at the dead end regarding securing strategic stability. While the two countries are committed to prevent any possible conflict between the two sides, neither Beijing nor Washington have developed a reasonable and sensible solution to achieve this. Thus, the rivalry goes on, and it has a high risk of spiraling into a military confrontation.

If Beijing already urges the Chinese military to be prepared for “counter measures” to respond to U.S. “provocations,” it hardly sounds promising. If China feels that the U.S. invades Chinese interests, the Chinese military will most likely use military force to stop the “American threat.”

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258 Comments on "China vs. US: World War 3 Over Some Tiny Islands?"

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  7. Chinese are stupid people. :o)

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  12. Yes, the U.S. denies everything, i.e., communism in Vietnam. Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Assad in Syria, ISIS in the Middle East, Russia in Ukraine, China in the South China Sea,…
    Yes, we blame everybody except ourselves.

  13. Chinaman Troll: Go home to your stinking Chinkland! You have no business in the West Philippine Sea.

  14. Afghanistan, Syria ? US is not the cause of the mischief in those places.

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    I make more money retired in a year than you will in 2 lifetimes. :o)

  20. It’s not over a few islands, it’s over the South China sea through which a significant portion of world trade passes. What if the US threw up a little Island or two and declared the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean the United States, blocking use of the Panama Canal to the rest of the world?

  21. After the U.S. took the Philippines away from Spain in 1898, the Filipinos fought a war against the U.S., the Philippine-American War, 1899–1902, which the regular bullets can not stop the Filipinos from coming toward our soldiers, a special weapon was developed just to stop the Filipinos, the .44 caliber pistol (info from my ROTC instructor back in the 1950s).

  22. That part of the ocean is normally called the Pacific Ocean!!!!

  23. For us, but what about the people outside of the U.S.?? We are the cause of their misery. They are fleeing their homeland because of our wars, our bombing them, destroying their homes, their crops, killing their people,…

  24. Wrong, South China Sea and Philippine Sea are two different areas, not even overlapping

  25. I feel the same way about China.

    With US, the world is a better place to live.

  26. Yes, Rand Paul, and his father Ron Paul, Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders,…

  27. The world doesn’t need the U.S.
    The U.S. is the evil one destroying everything.

  28. you must love Rand Paul

  29. and I thought Neville Chamberlin was dead…..

  30. Don’t be so sure you dimwit. :o)

  31. Kosovo!

  32. that might be true, but I am vastly more wealthy than you. YOu stupid idiot!

  33. ho
    I am vastly more educated than you are. :o)

  34. My son and Grandson have already been to war you gutless sack of pigs**t.
    So have I.
    Backing down from dictatorships like China and Russia always ends in disaster.
    China knows that it can’t win a war with the US. That would wind up breaking Communist china into at least 4 ethnic parts which would be a good thing. :o)

  35. In fact … I think you are both correct. The mentality of these people require a brutal dictator to keep them inline. Although Saddam was a brutal dictator, he did maintain stability in the region. The US ousted the brutal dictator thinking the people would be freed of the tyranny, and could form their own democracy. However, the mindset of these morons won’t allow them to prosper and be happy … It would be better and more cost effective to put Xanex in there water supply than to continue to bomb them into oblivion. They are an angry, hateful culture driven by an ideology that promotes torture and death.

  36. “they should create the lands on the earth system first to wage
    wars of never ending on the earth “.

    Yes, China created land in the South China Sea, and Uncle Sam is ready to wage war against China because of it.

    It’s a struggle against power, Uncle Sam’s power.

    “It’s simple to solve the problem of greed of human species @ Earth System @ life business” .

    No, it is NOT simple to solve any problem of greed. It has been a problem since humanity started to think for themselves. We still have no solution.

  37. I agree with you om most items except two:

    A: “A government is simple off the people, for the people, and by the people ( For Ex : Simple common people @ Americans )”.

    Answer: For America and its people, its:

    A government, for America:

    1: to uphold the power position #1 at all time,

    2: to keep down all potential nations from

    rising above America,

    3: to keep other nations in turmoil and chaos

    so they can not cause problems to

    America’s interest.

    4: To keep and maintain White Supremacy.

    B: “but using the money to fix everywhere in the global street systems . ( For Ex : Arab Streets )”.

    Not true, but using tax money to:

    1: to uphold the power position #1 at all time,

    2: to keep down all potential nations from
    rising above America,

    3: to keep other nations in turmoil and chaos so they can not cause problems to
    America’s interest.

    4: To keep and maintain White Supremacy.

  38. Chandra V Pakala | Nov 2, 2015, 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm |

    Problem & Issue :

    Earth, Lands & Wars :

    If human beings are naturally greedy for the lands on the
    earth, then else if ‘objectively’
    they should create the lands on
    the earth system first to wage
    wars of never ending on the earth .

    Earth is never created by human species to be very greedy for waging wars over it for eons.

    It’s simple to solve the problem of greed of human species @ Earth System @ life business .

    Based on the above objectivity reasons of simplicity my grand parents @ family dynasty of the rulers & administrators had Kostas lands & gave ( For Ex : VSKP : Ship Yard Coast to Madhurawada Coast & Nookalamma Vari Temple to Kasim Kota Sugar Factory @ AKP : AD 1800 – 1947 ), for free or charity to the next generation of people’s for converting villages @ BHARAT into modern cities @ INDIA by simply keeping only 3 simple lands for there 3 children & other grand father lived in a combined family concept or rented a place to live later on his life business .

  39. Chandra V Pakala | Nov 2, 2015, 1:38 pm at 1:38 pm |

    Problem & Issue :

    World’s peace & stability :

    My own independent opinions as per my own independent research work on this problem & issue of non technology function @ life system .

    If u analyze the world’s instability yes it is USA is responsible & accountable meddling with other civilizations & people’s internal affairs ( For Ex : Arabia , RUSSiA , China, Koreas ), instead of minding there own business in an American way of doing business @ life systems .

  40. Not “resulted” but same analogy.

  41. I didn’t mean it the way you implied.

  42. Chandra V Pakala | Nov 2, 2015, 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |

    Problem & Issue :

    Global Peace & Harmony @ Stake

    My own independent political research work on this problem & issue . Based on my work my own opinions .

    Yes you are absolutely right .
    USA & Governance is simply
    the real problem & threat for the
    ” Global Peace & Harmony ” ,
    by waging wars & warmongoers everywhere in the global life systems @ life business .

    Simple Definition of Government :

    A government is simple off the people, for the people, and by the people ( For Ex : Simple common people @ Americans ).

    Americans elected them they are not even caring fix there own simple common people’s pronlems & issues first within ( For Ex : Simple Pot Holes @ American Streets ) with tax payers dollars, but using the money to fix everywhere in the global street systems . ( For Ex : Arab Streets ).

  43. and somehow this resulted in your ridiculous comment “today’s problems in the Middle East are caused by the U.S”???

  44. Frankly, Philippine needs to rely on US to survive in that part of the region, especially China shows extreme interest in these islands.

    US also needs Philippine as an ally to cooperate. The country provides a perfect, strategic outposts to counterweight bad guys in the region.

    Haha, I like your analogy of Snow White and Seven Dwarfs. I have heard this before on discussion forum and haven’t had the change to reply. I know people who draw this analogy mean to attribute bad meaning to the dwarfs, but there are nothing bad about the dwarfs that I can find in the fairy tale. They’re hard working, good intention and so on.

    Yes, the US is Snow White and her allies are 7 Dwarves. In the fairy tale, these are good characters, the audiences around the world are rooting for them. The evil, vain, wicked mother-in-law is China, mind you, and it’s a perfect analogy :).

    So I totally love your Snow White and Seven Dwarves analogy.

  45. Let’s assume the US plays laissez faire:

    Imagine the world with China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, ISIS, Cuba, Venezuela, … run amuck on the world !!!!

    The world will be hell for sure.

    It’s not gonna happen. Wishful thinking on the bad guys part.

    As long as there’re evil guys , there must be US.

  46. Today, the most dangerous country is the U.S. Every war, every hot spot around the world, all killing and destruction are done by the U.S. in the name of democracy.

  47. Vietnam and the Philippines did it long ago. Why didn’t the U.S. do something then. Why only on China???? The U.S. is intimidating China.

  48. Thank you for an interesting story !

    I don’t think Communism is done yet ! As long as they still call themselves Communist Party, we should consider them as such. They’re morphing into something more dangerous and more sophisticate in term of propaganda and technique of controlling the masses.

    They would love to have people think that they’re dead so as to put on a fresh new facade and forget/forgive their horrible deeds that they have done to humanity.

  49. Absolutely. Lately, less we meddle into other country’s affairs less mess we would leave behind.

  50. Johnny Cashola | Nov 1, 2015, 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm |

    China is the one intimidating by taking control of disputed territories. It’s like public land. If U.S. does nothing then they’ll continue to bully their way into claiming more.

  51. Yes, we all know what had happened to communism. Communism died after the USSR disappeared.

    Vietnam’s communist party and China’s communist party came about the same time at the end of WWI, by students/workers in foreign countries. Ho Chi Minh, Deng Xiao Ping and a lot of the communist members were France acquiring ideas of revolution.

    “Viet Minh would not want Lao, Cambodia, etc.”

    Every nation, every body wants more land. That is why we have wars. Human beings are naturally greedy.

    With all those wars, deaths and destruction, the only nations today consider to be communist are North Korea and Cuba. Vietnam is not communist. China is not communist.

    Back in the 1960s, there was a column written by a journalist named T. T. Nhu in the San Jose Mercury News. She wrote about herself, her families, and Vietnam. She eventually became a staff member of Mayor Jerry Brown in Oakland. With her children grown, she divorced her husband and returned to Vietnam to help rebuild Vietnam.

    She said her father’s family was from the South, and her mother’s family from the north. Her father was killed and his family blamed her mother’s family.

    When the Vietnam War ended, her father’s family became refugees all over the world while her mother;s family returned home to celebrate their victory. She and her mother ended up in downtown Manhattan owning a grocery store business, where her mother constantly dreaming of finding a nice Vietnamese boy for her. She said “How do I go about finding a nice Vietnamese boy in downtown Manhattan?” She received a journalism scholarship to UC-Berkeley and married a White lawyer.

    About her mother’s brother, he went off to war leaving a beautiful wife and son at age 22. He fought at Dien Bian Phu, Kaisan,…
    At the end of the war, he returned home only to find an old woman and a man with a family of his own. He commanded the toughest fighting men around the world, but was being commanded by his grandchildren and enjoying life for the first time in his life.

    http://ajrarchive.org/Article.asp?id=3839

  52. I think the Philippine Sea is the Philippines’ name for the South China Sea.

    “Will China play that game with Philippine” ?

    The Philippines has to ask Uncle Sam’s permission to do anything. The Philippines is one of Uncle Sam’s Seven Dwarfs.

  53. I believe I’ve outgunned you intellectually.

  54. But wouldn’t the world be much better if we leave them alone and let them live the way they wanted to?? They have a different culture, different ways of doing things. They don’t have to live the way we live.

  55. Don’t forget, we did more than murdering the opposition. We destroyed their homes, murdered their children and old parents, farm animals, crops,… We did 100 times worse than Saddam Hussein in Iraq.

    And Iraq continues to be in turmoil and chaos years after we left whereas during Saddam Hussein’s time, Iraq was at peace.

  56. Instigating? Are you attempting to rewrite world history? Clearly you have a very narrow view of world events. Do you see the Chinese or Russians lifting a finger to help Syrian refugees? Don’t hold your breath. America is the most generous nation on earth and only pin heads like you blatantly criticize her.

  57. War is at no one’s interest, China or USA. BTW, here is the interesting fact that I found from the following article:

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/3-chinese-weapons-war-america-should-fear-the-south-china-14222

    “The chickens have come home to roost as the Chinese ships massively out-stick Lassen with their array of long-range anti-ship missiles. Had the Chinese chosen to sink Lassen, it would have been sitting at the bottom of the South China Sea right now.”

    You see, the gun boat policy is no longer working as effectively as one hundred or so years ago when four US gun boats opened up the trading doors to Japan, and British gun boats opened up trading doors to China. Nowadays, China also wants to open and keep maintaining the trading doors to open to the rest of the world including to the USA.

  58. Let’s assume the US plays laissez faire and see how thing plays out.

    Imagine the world with China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, ISIS, Cuba, Venezuela, … rampant the world !!!!

    The world will be hell for sure.

    It’s not gonna happen. Wishful thinking on the bad guys part.

  59. One of faults of logic is to attack people who ask question. It shows your weakness in logic. Basically, you throw in the towel :).

  60. You either not know or convenient omit the involvement of China and Soviet Union in French Indochina, especially Viet Nam. China and Soviet Union were as much responsible of the bloodshed in Viet Nam as other players.

    Viet Minh would not want Lao, Cambodia, etc. It was never in their plan to steal the whole region. By the way, Viet Minh is another name for Communist North Vietnam. They used the name to avoid scaring people off and duped people into believe they are nationalist and not Communist. After taking over the North, with the urged on of China, they started executed Nationalists in large number, some were exiled to do hard labor until they died. This has the bloody hand of China too of course.

    May be if it was China, the whole region would be gone by now.

    China stupidly and ignoramously enough chose Communism through the evil leadership of Mao Ze Dong and his cohorts instigated a proxy war in Viet Nam with anti-communist block led by US and others.

    The reason the election of 1956 didn’t happen not because President Diem thought he would lose, but because he knew the election would be rigged and the country would fall under Communism for sure – smart move.

    Who would be behind the rigged election 1956 if it happened? China and Communism of course. At the time, many people tried to escape to the South to avoid blood thirsty Communism. At this time, in the North, Communism government trained by China and Soviet Union (Mao and Stalin, etc.) reigned with iron bloody fist. We see this as the mirror image of China and Soviet Union at the time, e.g. Cultural Revolution, Great Leap Forward, etc.

    Everyone who didn’t follow Communism is considered “the enemies of the people” and was ordered to be exterminated. Killing social classes and political groups were the norm by Communist governments back then. It still happens today in China with people who voice about social, political injustices, and corruptions in China.

    There was an Exodus from the Communist North. People escaped to the South by whatever mean they could. It was proven true few years later as Mao started the Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution that wiped out 45 millions people in 4 years with the Gang of 4. Viet Nam experienced similar bloodshed due to pressure from China at a smaller scale of massacre.

    We see this again in the Cambodia Killing Field where Khmer Rouge with the brain trust of China massacred several millions of people. Yet, the bloody of China often goes un-noticed. They hide it pretty well.

    Most people only see one side and blame the US for the bloodshed, but China and Soviet Union are the one with bloody hand here too.

    We all know what happen to Communism.

  61. Does the Indian Ocean belong to India ?

    The Sea of Japan belong to Japan ?

    Or

    Philippine Sea belong to Philippine ?

    By the way, the Philippine Sea is much bigger than South China Sea.

    Will China play that game with Philippine ?

  62. About Afghanistan: we invaded Afghanistan not because we chose side to support. We invaded Afghanistan “officially” because we demanded to give up Bin Laden and Taliban asked US to provide any evidence that BL was involved in 9/11. US didn’t offer any, and just invaded the country that considered US as a friend for help during fight against Sov Union troops. Simple like that. Please, stick to facts.

  63. Give it up your’re outgunned intellectually.

  64. Agree. But thet don’t produce dead bodies. Still better than wars!

  65. Stopped building what?

  66. Kept the peace in Iraq? Yeah, sure. I guess he kept the peace if you call murdering political opposition and groups of people who don’t agree with you keeping the peace.

  67. You??? Reasoning????
    You don’t know the meaning of “reasoning”!!!!

  68. Stupid question? I merely followed your line of reasoning-

    “then it wouldn’t be called South China Sea, would it?? There is a reason why it is called the South China Sea.” – Buddy Frank

  69. The Ukraine problem was started by us because we wanted to build radar shield across Europe to watch Russia.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37599.htm

    Regime Change in Kiev

    Victoria Nuland Admits: US Has Invested $5 Billion In The Development of Ukrainian, “Democratic Institutions”

    Vietnam and the Philippines built many more artificial islands long before China did. The U.S. is just bullying China.

    We started the war against Afghanistan because Osama bin Laden is based in Afghanistan.

    Saddam Hussein was the only person who can control Iraq.

    Now, ISIS is the ghost of Saddam Hussein.

  70. Saddam Hussein kept the peace in Iraq very nicely until we invaded Iraq, and had him hung.

    I said many times, to let Saddam Hussein go, and give Iraq back to him. He can control Iraq. We can not.

    Today’s ISIS is the re-emerging of Saddam Hussein’s army/military. Saddam ordered his army/military to hide when we invaded Iraq.

    If we didn’t have our hands in the Middle East, who cares about the Middle East??? We have nothing to do in Bangladesh. Do we talk about Bangladesh???? Millions also die in Bangladesh.

    We talk about the Middle East because we got our hands in the Middle East!!!!

  71. Actually Russia started the Ukraine war by installing their puppet leader who was removed by the people of Ukraine. Once that happened Russia having lost it’s bid to control Ukraine invaded in a naked land grab.

    The US is merely exercising its legal right to freedom of navigation. China started it by creating artificial islands and claiming that all the waters around those artificial islands are their territorial waters.

    The US war in Afghanistan was just a continuation of the civil war Afghanistan had been experiencing. We didn’t start a war there we just chose a side to support.

    Forget Israel, again the middle east has always been a mess. Had the US intervened in Syria years ago instead of letting it spiral out of control ISIS would not exist as it does now, and we would not have the mass migration to Europe. Had the US stayed involved in Iraq it would have stabilized the country just as we did in Germany and Japan.

  72. Stop saying that there never has been any issues with freedom of navigation in the past 70 years. There never was because there were NO artificial islands back then! If you are one of the smaller countries who has China creeping closer to your border, wouldn’t you be worried?

  73. No, they really aren’t. They’re caused by incompetent arab governments and populations which are quite ignorant, and full of hate as is mandated by their warmongering cult known as Islam so is it any surprise it’s a mess. The fact that you’re bringing up Romans and Popes speaks volumes. This mess has been simmering for quite some time and now it’s boiling over the US is just a scapegoat for those governments.

  74. Don’t ask stupid questions. If you don’t understand what is going on, read up on the history behind it.

  75. Bull!!! Instead of calling me naive, you truly are the naive one, and ignorant, not understanding any of the events around the world.

    When the Viet Minh defeated the French at Dien Bian Phu, the Viet Minh should have taken ALL of what was known as “French Indochina”. Instead, the U.S., which had absolutely no involvement, played a major role in dividing French Indochina into Cambodia, Laos, North and South Vietnam. South Vietnam was to vote to become independent or join North Vietnam in two years, in 1956. President Diem refused to allow election because he knew he would lose, which the U.S. also supported, which eventually lead to the Vietnam War.

    Muslims and Israel were shooting at each other since 1948, the establishment of Israel, bu nothing like the U.S. war in Afghanistan, and the invasion of Iraq, and now Syria, ISIS,…

    The CIA’s “regime change” in Ukraine started the Ukrainian civil war.

    The U.S.’s freedom of navigation started the trouble in SCS.

    Everywhere the U.S. goes, it’s war!!!!

  76. Yes, but today’s problems in the Middle East are caused by the U.S.

    The Roman Empire scattered the Jews throughout Europe during the revolt against Rome in 66 AD – 73 AD.

    Pope Urban II ordered the release of all prisoners in Europe to sent them to regain the Holy Land in 1095 AD.

  77. Does the Indian ocean belong to India or the Gulf of Mexico to Mexico?

  78. Actually the U.S. is not the world’s major cause of instability. You’re incredibly naive. Every region of the world has it’s own issues which have nothing to do with the U.S., and every time the U.S. tries to disengage or ignore the outside world things get worse. The U.S., as screwed up as it is, in reality is the only source of stability in the world.

  79. Hoa!!! You are way too brainwashed. You should read and understand China’s history before you make a fool of yourself. Xinjiang has been part of China since the Han Dynasty. The Dalai Lama himself welcome the PLA into Tibet in 1950.

    There are just too many ignorant people posting here not knowing any Chinese history!!!!

  80. You’re incredibly naive. The turmoil in the M.E. has been going on for centuries.It will continue to go on for centuries regardless of U.S. involvement.

  81. Yeah, China threat, but Chinese made products only last one time.

  82. Today’s Middle East turmoil and chaos are all created by the U.S.

  83. Yeah!!! intimidation!!!!

  84. It proofs the U.S. is a big bully!!!!

  85. If “…other countries have been there way before China does”, then it wouldn’t be called South China Sea, would it?? There is a reason why it is called the South China Sea. Now, don’t try to justify your ignorance by lying.

  86. Yes, and the world will be at peace with one another.
    The U.S. is the major cause of world’s instability.

  87. Economic sanctions hurt everybody.

  88. Interpretation of history is on the same level of interpreting the scriptures. They are tools used by the communists and the religious cult leaders alike. But your silly statements prove nothing. Just as the bible says that Eve was created from Adam’s rib — you say that China has a right to kill Taiwanese. They are based on your interpretations of your selected narrative and do not reflect the real world. This is your fantasy – I don’t debate scripture with religious people and I don’t debate history with communists. It is a waste of time.

  89. Not for ilands. For the dollars. Who attemp to kill the dollar will be die unless they can win the war

  90. not just a small tiny island it is the choke hold that this Chinese military scheme to control and manipulate the south pacific. If successful they in turn will control the world economy.

  91. Andy,

    Did you do any research that any nation on this planet’s current border is based on a 1773 year’s map? Please tell me where the USA was then in 1773 (I assume you are an
    American)? Does your logic mean that USA government should give back entire USA land back to all the Native Americans? Should give back Hawaii to Hawaiians? Etc….

    Russian grabbed a large swath of land from ancient China when China was at its weakest, and I would say this is a historical matter between China and Russia which will be settled one day in the future.

    Chinese people migrated to Canada or any another country is a legal and legitimate affairs and you have no position to label them as aggression if you are a logic person.

  92. Arunas Martinonis | Nov 1, 2015, 8:22 am at 8:22 am |

    It is better to deal with this sooner rather then later. China is just grabbing ocean rights that don’t belong to them because they want the resources. China is being the greedy hog – making artificial islands and claiming territorial waters. That is a ridiculous ploy – the only thing more ridiculous is the of the world stood by and let them get this far. Ancient Chinese proverb – it is easier to cut a sapling then a tree.

  93. Sometime back I did read where China may build so many aircraft carriers. I believe the number could have been around 23 or 25 to be built by a certain year. That year for estimated completion may have been before 2030 if I recall correctly.

    I am also familiar with the smaller numbers expected on how many of these carriers might be built and China is actively building toward their goals of their aircraft carrier program

    As far as atolls. I was not meaning that large populations would move there. I only meant that China wants to make those man made Islands which are atoll islands, as being legit claims for China ownership for their country.

    And from a military point of view. Those artificial islands which are very small and can create military problems for the free world.

    But if I recall through the media correctly. Those atolls have to be legally considered Islands for China to get rights of ownership for the land there to be considered part of China.

  94. Ah yes, get into war with China and now with U.S. Troops officially on the ground and in the air over Syria’s civil war with a chance to get into it with the Russians , Not forgetting our old stand-by war in Afghanistan and Iraq . ..Should we start telling the grandkids to start collecting sticks and stones now in case there is someone left over for the next one . ?

  95. Seen from the Map, China is biggest victim, all of the China’s islands are occupied by VN, PH, how come China never let its people to know this, China’s territory is occupied by these small countries, and now these small countries say China is the biggest bully, what kinds of logic is that, China, you are shameful, let these countries to occupy your islands and do nothing. Be a real bully, kick them all out, bomb these occupied islands! be a real bully, otherwise, you are not qualified to be a big country. even a small country will not give any its territory, and China sitting there do nothing for the invasion.

  96. you a Vietnam monkey.

  97. Johnny Cashola | Nov 1, 2015, 6:31 am at 6:31 am |

    You say nothing happened until America “pivoted” Asia. But that’s not true. China started it by suddenly claiming islands and building on them. If everything was perfect, then why did they make such a bold move?

  98. Johnny Cashola | Nov 1, 2015, 6:20 am at 6:20 am |

    Except U.S. won’t be the ones starting war. They’re simply sailing through legally.

  99. you dumb idiot, get loss you stupid moron! the Earth does belong to china. the ocean belongs to everybody. the US should claim shoth china sea!

  100. NO, no, please, no more wars! Instead China might try some selective economical sanctions against USA. I bet USA is more sensitive to economical sanctions than to dead produced by wars.

  101. I wish the USA would bring all it’s stuff home and then we would see chaos and begging from the world oh please come help us! like we’ve seen for a century or more Let them solve their own problems.

  102. US doesn’t instigate trouble in the Middle East. The trouble in Middle East has been there long before the existence of the country named US.

    Read a little bit of history before making accusation will you !

  103. @Lex
    NO.NO.NO.
    It is about the American scheme to dominate Asia, 10,000 miles away from home, right in somebody else’ neighborhood. The so called “pivot to Asia”

    The multilateral dispute in the same South China Sea has been around for more than 70 years. SEVENTY YEARS! There has NEVER been any disruption of navigational freedom. NEVER.
    That is : until America announced her “pivot” three years ago. Think criminal gangs wanting to take over a neighborhood by creating the “condition” for the neighborhood to need their “protection”. That is exactly what is happening.
    Check the map. Vietnam has 24 military installations on reclaimed land. The Philippines has 9, China has 7. These are all legitimate members of the same neighborhood, who are in dispute.
    I wonder why the United States also has 7. It is certainly far from our own home turf.

  104. This map just proves that other countries have been there way before China does :).

    China just built some island recently – let’s say 7 ?

  105. jealousy gets you killed | Nov 1, 2015, 1:42 am at 1:42 am |

    idiot, russia anyone? pakistan? Unlike the axis of evil, those are not with it would be sanctioned the crap out of them right? Or better yet, regime will be replaced with deaths, destructions and fictitious regime! Way to coerce to have friends, embicile!!

  106. sraysr
    Another war? We are not done in Afghanistan. We are back in Iraq and now in Syria.
    Crazy war mongers should send your own children.
    Are you sending your own sons and daughters, @sraysr?

  107. My argument based on several evidences.

    China’s threatening US to go to war if US ships sailing by the area that China claims her own. If this is not a violation of freedom of navigation then what is ?

    China is known to chase off, ram and sink other countries boats in the cow-tongue or 9-dashes lines. Is it not a violation of freedom of navigation ?

    There are videos online show recording of Chinese Navy harassing US airplane in the South China Sea. It can be heard the Chinese voice claiming that “It’s Chinese sky”.

    These evidences are clearly violation of freedom of navigation !!!

    You can spin these any way you like. We here call them serious violations of freedom of navigation.

  108. It’s NOTJUST TINY ISLAND YOU STUPID! It’s about the right of the whole world thru the international waters! GET IT!!

  109. jealousy gets you killed | Nov 1, 2015, 1:32 am at 1:32 am |

    IDIOT, didnt realize this is spelling contest and there is a moronic grammar nazi in the house. See if you could utter any chinese moron. I figure the only language you can speak is erglish!! Better learn mandarin!! we are buying up cali, ny, wasu & canada.

    Keep telling yourself about who are or who are not your and my friends. Last i checked the axis of evil is #1 imbecile. Look i learn how spell “imbecile” from an embicile!!

    http://wwwdotabcnewspointdotcom/top-10-list-of-most-hated-countries-in-the-world-2015/

  110. @9
    Is that why America is instigating trouble, like she is doing in the Middle East, and in the Americas before it?

  111. @LiveFree
    YOU SAID :”China is setting her own trap. Just like Japan in pre-WW2?

    How so? Can you explain?

  112. I agree that you can own if you claim and hold, but there are other conditions. I am not familiar with Philippine law, but for example, I believe in the past you could title Philippine land in this manner, although it is not so anymore, or at least it is very uncommon. Nowadays you have to inherit or purchase.

    Analogously, in the case of islands, you have to occupy and exercise jurisdiction over them in a manner recognized by other nations, and then at some point most of the nations in the world have to recognize your sovereignty over the islands. That has not happened in the case of the Spratlys.

    To repeat my argument, all the Spratlys except Itu Aba are not naturally habitable, and the technology for exercising state power over the islands did not exist until recently. So the actual exercise of sovereignty over the islands has not been effective for most of history. Pirate and trading ships, or even patrol ships that breeze by like expensive yachts do not establish sovereignty over the islands, much less drawing lines on a piece of paper. Besides, the international community does not recognize any owner of the islands–their ownership is disputed.

    I don’t see any good argument for Communist Chinese sovereignty over the islands. You’re welcome to differ without insulting me. Communist Chinese power over these islands was NEVER felt by the Philippines until 2012. NEVER. That’s a word I want to highlight: NEVER. So it is an invasion, in practical terms.

    In international law, the difference between a shoal and an island is not trivial. The difference is about 188 nautical miles of EEZ.

    Scarborough Shoal is not an island. The difference in terminology matters worlds.

  113. jealousy gets you killed | Nov 1, 2015, 1:26 am at 1:26 am |

    hey idiot, what map should i look at in reference to Diego garcia, Gitmo, guam or hawaii? What is the nautical mile limit to the mainland? Are the axis of evil so embarassed that they sholve the map up merkel and your mother’s a$$?

  114. No need to speculate. Take a shot at the destroyer. See what happens. What you unsophisticated and walled-off people will never understand is how a real democracy works. It will not be about what the US government wants. it will be about what the American people demand. And if you think the American people will submit to China, you are beyond stupid.

  115. hugu
    What freedom of navigation? You are duped !
    The multilateral dispute in South China Sea has been around for 70 years ( seventy). There has NEVER been any disruption of navigational freedom. STILL DOESN’T.
    The so called threat is AN AMERICAN CREATION/FABRICATION.
    It started right around the time America announced her “pivot to Asia” aka her intent to dominate Asia, a neighborhood 10,000 miles from home. Think gangsters tactics when they want to “take over” a neighborhood. They first create the “condition” for their intended targets to “need” their protection. Fear and chaos work very well. The gangster would make sure to create it out of thin air.
    This is exactly what America is doing.
    Meanwhile maritime traffic is flowing just fine, as per usual.
    Every nation, especially the number one trade nation, China, needs free and fast maritime traffic. No one would shoot itself in the foot by jeopardizing it. It is completely ridiculous for America to claim otherwise.

  116. Imbecile is spelled with an “I” my friend. Better stick to Chinese if you have difficulty with English. Russia is not an ally of China. It is a friend of convenience. It will be happy to sell arms to China. It is not stupid. There is no way it will join China in a war against the West. And Pakistan, what an ally. Just ask Saudi Arabia how much help Pakistan has been in Yemen. That’s the trouble when you have to buy your friends. The fact is, China is on its own and if it continues on this course it will have the entire world hating it. Smart move for a mercantile country.

  117. @disqus_JEpKSuH8nP:disqus
    China has NOT been in any war since the 1970s.
    Lets count the wars we have been in around the same time frame:
    Vietnam war, Iran proxy war ( where we used Saddam to invade Iran with funding, weapons, intelligence and logistic assistance), Grenada, Afghanistan war, Iran war , proxy war in Libya and now a proxy war in Syria.
    Have I missed some?

  118. War mad US generals have been fighting losing battles (their own ghosts) North East South West, starting from Korea war, Vietnam war, Iraq war, …… more war, …. and the latest South China Sea war, their final resting place.

  119. Tell that to the trolls who drum up the China threat.

  120. If China tries to choke off free commerce in S China Sea, it is choking herself since most of the traffic is related to China.
    US is again talking on both sides of the mouth-ambiguity. It says about freedom of navigation and does not take sides on disputed sovereignties, yet use freedom of navigation to trample on the sovereignty claimed by one side.

  121. If China’s military hardware works anything like the made in China crap we’ve been buying in Walmart, we have nothing to worry about.

  122. As far as I know only the Philippines navy did the killings. It has killed Taiwan fishermen. China did not kill any fisherman from other countries.

  123. I guess you feel the normal state boundary for China is when China was the weakest. China was in a semi-colonial state being chewed up by foreign powers. Even in her own country other powers have extra-territory privileges. Recovery from that is aggression?
    The 8 islands China is building: You are claiming they were all artificial islands that was submerged in high tide?

  124. It is the extent of the use. I guess. The same the Chinese have established colonies in Malaysia and other parts of the area. but can not claim Malaysia. You can own if you claim and hold. There have been pirates, militarized boats from China in those areas for a long time. For simplicity, I call shoals islands as in other news.

  125. mitwit
    The salient fact not to be forgotten is this:
    The territorial dispute has lasted at least 70 years, there has NEVER been any issue with navigational freedom UNTIL AMERICA ANNOUNCED HER PIVOT TO ASIA.

  126. mitwit
    Vietnam and the Philippines are parties to the dispute. What else do you expect?
    They would welcome any tilt to their advantage in the dispute.

  127. mitwit
    Japan was an advanced industrial nation before WWII. Lots of industrial capacity and know how. It had great potential to be an useful client state of the US in our quest for world dominance. By insisting not to charge the Japanese emperor with war crime( while we had no problem charging others) and showering largess, United States has got a client state she wants from Japan.
    The whole thing has NOTHING to do with benevolence but everything to do with brilliant strategy. Hindsight shows that we did very well for ourselves. Our most valuable military assets are stationed on Japanese soil. 10,000 miles from home.
    A big factor in our “top dog” project in a far away neighborhood.
    (** BTW Okinawa OBJECTED to new US military bases on her soil, not once but several times. It objected again recently, but is overturned by the Abe government. Shows the puppet is toeing the line !)
    Germany, under Hitler, was ALREADY a democracy. We do not want to admit this fact. But Hitler was duly elected by his people.

  128. @understand1975:disqus
    The Chinese has made that claim for 70 ( seventy) years. Freedom of navigation has NEVER been an issue. It is and has been a busy and free waterway UNTIL the United States decided to “pivot” to Asia two years ago. Then all of a sudden, the tale of “choking” emerges.
    “Threat of freedom of navigation” in the South China Sea is an American FABRICATION. Think criminal gang going into a neighborhood and creating the “condition” for their extortion.
    America is playing the the usual dominance game in Asia; now that she is done doing it in Middle East, after have done it in South and Central America, leaving a trail of blood.
    Follow the trail of blood in Chile, Guatemala,Panama, Nicaragua…Iraq, Syria, Libya….

  129. The article’s author may be right: potential risk of WW III over some tiny rocks. However the root cause lays somewhere else long time ago: 65+ years ago to be exact. When Red china under Mao invaded Tibet and assassinated the young newly restored Uighur kingdom as East Turkestan, the West said nothing, actually “approved it”. When Red China invaded Paracel islands of Vietnam in 1974, the West said nothing (Nixon actually exchanged his silence in hope that Deng Xiao Ping would help him to reign in North Vietnam). When Red China invaded Anurachal of India, the West said nothing. Again in 1988, Red China invaded 8 Spratly islets and reefs of Vietnam, the West said nothing. Now China ignored the UNCLOS treaty and built 8 artificial islands and announced that it would do the same with 200+ other submerged reefs to cover the entire sea of South East Asia, the US begins to react, Europe still keeps silent. No wonder we are at the brink of WW III. Imperialist Red China is like a cancer, the longer you wait to confront the disease, the bigger the metastasizing is and it may kill you.

  130. It is that same old ‘ulterior US motives’ that those war mad US generals think the world still not knowing. Chinese leaders have pierce through their stubborn skulls.

  131. Obviously the other Asians are worried. They have openly asked the US for assistance and offered places for US military to join them. With your concerns about US behavior look at the aftermath of WWII. The US helped rebuild Japan and Gremany, free independent countries now. We even pushed for China to be on the UN Security Council. On the other references, do you really think there were peaceful disagreements before the US tried to stop the conflicts. If anything the US problem is believing we can bring peace to areas that are not capable of it with free people.

  132. Andy
    How many acres of land have the Chinese bought in YOUR Canada? Your claim that Canada is in eminent danger of being owned by the Chinese sounds very “original”. I haven’t see it discussed much in the election that just took place in Canada. Strange, since it is such a national threat!
    Can you give a figure of Chinese land ownership in Canada with a link? Figures generated inside your head will not do.
    Your Siberian story is interesting. Care to furnish a link as well? Russia is sparsely populated, especially in the frozen Siberia. It is not as if anybody, including the Russians, are fighting to move there. If the Chinese want to put money and resources to develop the place, I wouldn’t mind if I were Russian.

  133. mitwit
    This is about American excuse to “pivot”(a.k.a impose her dominance) to Asia, 10,000 miles from home.
    The freedom of navigation in the South China Sea is NEVER an issue. Was NEVER an issue until America makes it one.
    China, being the number one trading nation in the world, NEEDS freedom of navigation. It does not serve anyone’s interest to make the passage less efficient.
    American “pivots” have an established pattern. It usually preceded with manufactured chaos, so that America could claim that she was there to “police”. Think criminal gangs coming into a neighborhood and creating “conditions” for extortion. It followed with bloodshed and American domination through subversive maneuvers. Check the history of South and Central American nations of yesteryear. Better yet, check what is happening in the Middle East.
    Asians should be very worried. Very worried. Their relative peace of the recent past is coming to an end.

  134. TutoringServicesNi | Oct 31, 2015, 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm |

    To the contrary “GreensboroVet” ; your ludicrous comment above proves you don’t comprehend the brilliant article written by Polina above! I reiterate :

    The current U.S. Dollar rally is a brief blip, as the tragic encounter in the China Sea between the misinformed U.S. Admiral Harris and China will soon likely result in sinking of the USS Lassan Destroyer by a Chinese Silkworm Missile , as occurred decades ago to a British Destroyer in the Faullkans Islands War.

    Good and informative article by Polina Tichonova on Value Walk Internet ! The motivations for China are economic , as well as world stature :

    (a) Valuable Fishing Rights and Crude Oil Drilling Rigs Locations are at stake, which is why Vietnam, Philippines, and other China Sea neighbors are so angry with China’s brilliant Engineering achievements in building upon subsurface Reefs to create Strategic Military Islands which have Military Landing Air Strips guarded by various Antiaircraft Weapons,

    (b) China is enhancing its prestige by standing up to the U.S. Navy claim to International Waters, and so the next time the USS Lassan Destroyer enters inside the 12 mile Limit, China has now publicly warned the U.S. that it will use a Silkworm Missile to sink it as they did to a British Destroyer in the Faullkan Island War decades ago ! Even a U.S. Aircraft Carrier can be sunk by China’s new Ballistic Missile that they paraded recently to celebrate their 70th Anniversary of Victory in WW II.

    In the face of these new China Policy Statements from their top Leadership yesterday, does President Obama have the stomach to continue to back the ambitious U.S. Admiral Harris ? ! The DJIA will sink as fast and as far as the USS Lassan Destroyer does, while HUI, XAU, Gold, and Silver prices will rise even faster and farther than the DJIA falls ! Oct 31, 2015 at 7:52 pm PDT.

  135. TutoringServicesNi | Oct 31, 2015, 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm |

    To the contrary “LiveFree” !

    The current U.S. Dollar rally is a brief blip, as the tragic encounter in the China Sea between the misinformed U.S. Admiral Harris and China will soon likely result in sinking of the USS Lassan Destroyer by a Chinese Silkworm Missile , as occurred decades ago to a British Destroyer in the Faullkans Islands War.

    Good and informative article by Polina Tichonova on Value Walk Internet ! The motivations for China are economic , as well as world stature :

    (a) Valuable Fishing Rights and Crude Oil Drilling Rigs Locations are at stake, which is why Vietnam, Philippines, and other China Sea neighbors are so angry with China’s brilliant Engineering achievements in building upon subsurface Reefs to create Strategic Military Islands which have Military Landing Air Strips guarded by various Antiaircraft Weapons,

    (b) China is enhancing its prestige by standing up to the U.S. Navy claim to International Waters, and so the next time the USS Lassan Destroyer enters inside the 12 mile Limit, China has now publicly warned the U.S. that it will use a Silkworm Missile to sink it as they did to a British Destroyer in the Faullkan Island War decades ago ! Even a U.S. Aircraft Carrier can be sunk by China’s new Ballistic Missile that they paraded recently to celebrate their 70th Anniversary of Victory in WW II.

    In the face of these new China Policy Statements from their top Leadership yesterday, does President Obama have the stomach to continue to back the ambitious U.S. Admiral Harris ? ! The DJIA will sink as fast and as far as the USS Lassan Destroyer does, while HUI, XAU, Gold, and Silver prices will rise even faster and farther than the DJIA falls ! Oct 31, 2015 at 7:46 pm PDT.

  136. @disqus_JEpKSuH8nP:disqus
    YOU do realize that the reclaimed area were atolls? These were rocks that submerged in high tides, far away from the mainland andR very difficult to defend. YOU are ignorant is not crazy to suggest that any nation would move any population there.
    China is yet to have ONE fully functioning air craft carrier. Do you have any f88king idea how long it takes to build ONE aircraft carrier?
    The United States has 11 ( eleven) functioning carrier right now cruising around the globe, threatening anyone not toeing the line.
    Which nation is stronger?
    You are a stupid war monger.

  137. Zambales fishermen have been fishing at Scarborough Shoal and using it as shelter from typhoons for centuries.

    It’s a shoal, by the way, not an island.

  138. Your response has no bearing on what I said.

  139. The map is excellent. It shows graphically where the nations involved in the territorial dispute have their reclaimed islands and military installations. It seems Vietnamese has 24 such reclaimed structures. Did I count right ? Philippines 9 and China 5 ?
    The maritime passage in South China Sea was NEVER in danger. Is NOT in danger. What is the US doing instigating conflict, 10,000 miles away from home?

  140. The issue is freedom of the seas. The UN agreement is 12 miles for possession and 200 miles for economic issues…if possible. China’s claims to waters beyond these limits is what is pushing the problem. No one believes the Totalitarian Chinese has non-military goals in mind for their actions. This is not about some tiny islands, it’s about totalitarian expansionism in an important economic zone. The area needs open waters.

  141. I repeat the Chinese use those islands. Filipinos has their own large islands and no need to use those islands.

  142. 50 peso fart.

  143. You are talking Chinese like wars. I say not. I have never heard they want 25 aircraft carriers. Give me reference or you have made it up.
    I answered your question. With a big population, they are in Americas, Africa,….no wars.

  144. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm |

    which imbred bred you imbecile?

    “When the Spratlys and Paracels were being surveyed by Germany in 1883, China issued protests against them. The 1887 Chinese-Vietnamese Boundary convention signed between France and China after theSino-French War said that China was the owner of the Spratly and Paracel islands.[53][54] China sent naval forces on inspection tours in 1902 and 1907 and placed flags and markers on the islands. The Qing dynasty’s successor state, the Republic of China, claimed the Spratly and Paracel islands under the jurisdiction of Hainan.[54]”

  145. God listens to the poor and oppressed–does Communist China fit into this category?–and Jesus teaches the peoples of the world to share the world’s goods.

  146. The Chinese in those countries and economic dominance are more recent event, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines. China never invaded those countries.

  147. You are a Chinese communist.

  148. According to international law, sovereignty is not established by de facto fishing rights.

    Roaming Chinese fishing boats in however large numbers is no reason to forcibly eject fishing boats of other nationals.

    If the data you cite is correct, it only supports the view I presented earlier: the Spratlys has been a commons for centuries and centuries of recorded history.

  149. Why do they want 25 or so air craftcarriers? Why do they need to create islands? And worst of all, why would they want to go to 2 children when they know they have not the land to support such over population? There is where you haven’t shown me how this cannot ever lead to war or wars or any type of issues to the world by China. I have said enough here.

  150. Dien Mai
    You are absolutely correct.

  151. Where did you get this fake information? Stop making up a story. Liar.

  152. You are mumbling and definitely not addressing my points

  153. Some of those countries near China I believe were once part of China and if so. Then the historical roots for that part of their country could be were this may all come together in war and aggression, if it would happen at all.

  154. Luis Gallego
    I really enjoyed reading your post. You are absolutely correct. China will never touch America or Japan. They know very well ! But they go around bullying little countries with their warships.

  155. There are 50,000 Chinese fishing boats roaming that area now. They have been there for a long time. No other country as that many there. The fishermen use the reefs for storage, avoid typhoons etc.

  156. Understand1975 . | Oct 31, 2015, 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm |

    It is not the island; it is the whole sea that China claimed. if China has the whole sea, then it chokes Japan, Australia and US access to Asia through the Pacific

  157. Read the history and find out where is the main land China. (Merkel German Prime Minister gave Chinese President a map of China) China started to invade these islands in the end of the twenty century. China might claim the Moon belong to them one day.

    Looking at Eastern of Russia (Siberia). In the near future (another 30 or 50 years later) this area will become part of China because Chinese government is planning to send more Chinese people to Russia and they are going to build a China town there in Siberia.

    Looking at Canada, Chinese is sending more and more Chinese people there. Particularly, Chinese government encourage Chinese people to buy the farming lands – China is on the way to becoming the dominant land owner in the entire Canada.

    Can you tell who the aggressor is now?

  158. Could be but even animals that are breed to fight, can still appear to be very normal to hurt no one and still some times those instincts may come up to hurt the innocent.

    Sometimes, one has to look at the facts to see what might be what. And it is strange going to two children and no room for them and their off spring to come to their country some day. And seeing how they create islands and etc.

  159. China has many nuclear weapons. Did you ever see USA picks a fight with a country that has nuclear bomb? Never!

  160. The Chinese dominates SE Asia economy without invading those countries.

  161. Not really. America and the Europe before WWII were constantly at war. China in its history has peace time about 50%.

  162. You need to go back and read the news again. China did responded with a bigger warship to shadowed USA’s warship. Obama is scared of China. He is only picking on countries that have no nuclear weapons like Syria or Libya.

  163. Bromhidrosis American | Oct 31, 2015, 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm |

    he Hague-based Permanent Court of Arbitration sent a gift to the
    Philippines on Thursday, ruling that it has jurisdiction over the case
    filed by the Philippines against China’s territorial claims in the South
    China Sea.

    The Chinese foreign ministry on Friday said that the ruling is null and void, and has no binding effect on China.

    China has been rejecting the Hague-based court’s authority in this case
    since Manila filed the case in 2013. Some people in the West accused
    China of despising international law. But they have ignored that China
    is actually doing so in accordance with the rights given by the United
    Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

    China ratified UNCLOS about 20 years ago. Following Article 298 of
    UNCLOS, China in 2006 handed in a written document, stating it will not
    accept international arbitration over sovereignty disputes. So far 58
    countries have made similar statements, including South Korea.

    The Arbitral Tribunal’s ruling ignored China’s legal rights and the fact
    that the case involves territorial sovereignty and maritime
    demarcation. It also ignored China and the Philippines’ bilateral and
    multilateral agreements to solve the disputes through negotiations.

    The ruling could become an excuse for those who try to worsen the disputes in the South China Sea and cause tension.

    UNCLOS’s aim is to avoid forceful intervention. The best solution to
    territorial disputes is negotiation between the disputing parties.

    If the Arbitral Tribunal always decide to expand its power to intervene
    in such affairs at the request of one side, it will only start a system
    that may trigger more disputes. This is not what UNCLOS was created for.

    China’s sovereignty over the South China Sea territories was formed over
    a long period of time, and has been upheld by various administrations.
    With ample historical and legal backing, China will not accept any plans
    over its sovereignty rights forced upon it by other parties.

    The Arbitral Tribunal should be clear about China’s stance as well as
    the complexity and risks involved in the South China Sea disputes.

    However, the court made a ruling with one-sided influence from the
    Philippines. It is against the spirit of international law. It also
    hurts the authority of UNCLOS.

    If an international judicial institution twists and abuses the law, how
    can it shoulder the responsibility to safeguard peace and justice?

    Manila knows the Hague will not be able to solve its problem with China.
    In the end Manila will still have to sit down face-to-face with Beijing
    to find solutions. The US warship’s patrol in the South China Sea and
    the Arbitral Tribunal’s ruling are all smokescreens to fool the world.

  164. They have a history of hundreds of years at fighting. It maybe just a way of life to them to cause war. Just like radical Islam wars through the centuries. And these China people may have their own desired fighting instincts to get what they want in life.

  165. War is a stupid way for expansion. There are over 1 million Chinese in Africa, mostly as entrepreneurs.

  166. Yeah, right now China can’t touch America. But, after 2050 maybe America can’t easily sail to south China sea like now.

  167. China is now allowing two children per family instead of remaining at one child. So, where are they going to put all these new people over their future? Looks like world expansion to me. All of the South China sea and where ever they can go with their military. They are building 25 or so aircraft carriers, why do they need that, is it to keep Muslims and the third world out? Looks to me they are planning a war sometime in the near future and they may try to bust our nation finically to try to break us so we have no way to fight China off any country they may attack some day. And China may feel that they have damaged their land and water and air so badly, that they need to move whole populations of themselves to new land and new water through military actions and world war. They may try to stealth that war at first, as a forerunner to starting actual world war. They will want to win natural and man made resources, and they will go for the resources no matter where those resources are.

  168. confusion as confused you moron

  169. Former Director of the CIA writes in broken English? “Chineses”? “devil red China regime”? CIA=Can’t Intelligently Answer! “as confusion said” Confucius maybe?

  170. your stupid

  171. IN MY OPINION YOU CAN NOT CLAIM A 12 MILE LIMIT ON TERRITORIAL WATERS FOR THIS MAN-MADE-ISLAND IT CAN ONLY BE CLAIMED FOR A NATURALLY FORMED ISLAND SO YOUR PURSUIT IN THIS MATTER IS FLAWED !.

  172. it didnt say “a tiney island” it said some tiny islands duh

  173. go back to the hole you crawled out of the S china sea has never nor shall be china’s territory even a 6th grader knows this

  174. Imperial China never effectively exercised sovereignty over the Spratlys because the technology required to effectively enforce coercive state power over the islands did not exist until perhaps World War II and also because only the largest island, Itu Aba, was actually habitable. Imperial China, dynastic Vietnam, and colonial France all laid claim to the Spratlys by drawing lines on a map but not effectively exercising state power over the islands for the reasons just mentioned. Anyone can draw lines on a map and make paper claims. Exercising sovereignty over the islands and making other nations recognize your claims is an entirely different matter. I would suggest that from the standpoint of the Philippines, only Imperial Japan during World War II, and in the special case of Itu Aba, Taiwan, made their sovereignty claims genuinely felt. Communist China, for that matter, Imperial China, has been practically nonexistent in this area until 2012. In effect, Communist China presence in the Spratlys could be characterized as an invasion of a shared commons.

  175. No, I don’t, I searched for a chunk of your text in Google.

    But now that you mention it is Wikipedia, Wikipedia is unacceptable as an academic source. Wikipedia is an unreliable source because its content can be changed by anyone anytime.

  176. Typical stupid article by this shill. A question: How could it be WWIII? World wars require groups of allies. China has no allies.

  177. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm |

    Yikuan, most of these moronic trolls are brain(less)washed by its CIA master. Good post!!

  178. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm |

    you are moron!! that’s your best on countering me? Do research and find a treaty before 1884 you imbecile!! Otherwise, stop trolling if you make no effort to research and counter!!

  179. Yes quoting Wikipedia. However, I noticed you are only showing the Chinese claims. There are claims before and after from multiple countries, mainly Vietnam and the Philippines.

  180. You know it is Wikipedia

  181. Like to find any country that hasn’t killed off people and stolen land. Man is man.

  182. Very cute. However, it isn’t China’s sovereign waters.

  183. Ahhh China make your mainland island double decker not to grab other neighbor islands.

  184. They haven’t stopped building or whining.

  185. Did anyone actually counted the flags on the map showing above???

    How many flags belong to China (8)?
    How many flags belong to Malaysia (7)?
    How many flags belong to Vietnam (26)?
    How many flags belong to Philippines (10)?
    And how many flags belong to Taiwan (2)?

    One picture is worth thousand words!!!
    Can you tell who the aggressor is now?

  186. A truth about America.America hasalways been ganging up and calling for its gang members to come to walk beside America with the slightest indication of any trouble just like a small animal when confronted by a large and scary animal puffs up and tries to appear ferocious and gigantic to subdue the opponent.America has been scaring and threating other countries through out its history mostly countries which are defenseless and can be taken advantage easily but in this case as always it is keeping its tail between its legs just in case it has to run unexpectedly and save its reputation and salvage dignity in a hurry and trying to test the courage of China a country to be reckon with and respected to see what it s going to do and if China responds aggressively and firmly then I am sure beyond any doubts America will submit to China and fall in line that kind of country America is,a thug,with no back bone and a lot of hot air and nothing without its other thug partners.
    What business America has going thousands of miles to another country and throw its thug weight around to create an un provoke episode.China has not restricted any country to hinder free passage or trade and has not done similar action comming to American Waters to create any tension?
    China has all the rights to respond to this open aggression with what ever force it deems necessary to protect its sovereignty from unprovoked aggression and incursion in to its territorial waters around China.

  187. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm |

    here you go moronic HO!!

    “When the Spratlys and Paracels were being surveyed by Germany in 1883, China issued protests against them. The 1887 Chinese-Vietnamese Boundary convention signed between France and China after theSino-French War said that China was the owner of the Spratly and Paracel islands.[53][54] China sent naval forces on inspection tours in 1902 and 1907 and placed flags and markers on the islands. The Qing dynasty’s successor state, the Republic of China, claimed the Spratly and Paracel islands under the jurisdiction of Hainan.[54]”

  188. There’s a number here but no source cited.

  189. as confusion said—–if you touch the horse testicles you will get a kick—seem liked china has touch a nerve ball

  190. no god is coming for china as red china regime is SATAN

  191. GOD has punished China before. They have lost twice to Japan and never even landed a ship on the Japanese shore…

  192. I am a former director of CIA—-there is one thing about china—-red china regime is an evil regime—-they murder 80,000,000 chineses in GREAT LEAP FORWARD AND CULTURE REVOLUTION,now red china is facing economy hardship and famines will happens in china due to water toxic and pollution,red china regime using nationalist and sovereignty to fool chineses population,this devil red china regime is not hesitates to murder chineses people(FALONG GONG,TIANAMEN SQUARE) to war with the neighbor when it come to control of china regime,red china intend to start war with american and asea to keep the mass population of china under control when economy hardship and famines coming

  193. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm |

    here you go stupid!!

    “When the Spratlys and Paracels were being surveyed by Germany in 1883, China issued protests against them. The 1887 Chinese-Vietnamese Boundary convention signed between France and China after theSino-French War said that China was the owner of the Spratly and Paracel islands.[53][54] China sent naval forces on inspection tours in 1902 and 1907 and placed flags and markers on the islands. The Qing dynasty’s successor state, the Republic of China, claimed the Spratly and Paracel islands under the jurisdiction of Hainan.[54]”

  194. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm |

    stupid much? do some research moron!!

    “When the Spratlys and Paracels were being surveyed by Germany in 1883, China issued protests against them. The 1887 Chinese-Vietnamese Boundary convention signed between France and China after theSino-French War said that China was the owner of the Spratly and Paracel islands.[53][54] China sent naval forces on inspection tours in 1902 and 1907 and placed flags and markers on the islands. The Qing dynasty’s successor state, the Republic of China, claimed the Spratly and Paracel islands under the jurisdiction of Hainan.[54]”

  195. What about those two unpaid wars of dubya and dick?

  196. Lmfao. Take your medication, fool.

  197. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm |

    Have we stopped building?

  198. jealousy gets you killed | Oct 31, 2015, 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm |

    why build imbecile? You thieves and murderers had so much experience in killing off the natives and stealing their lands!! remember north america? remember hawaii? Diego garcia? Guam? Gitmo? What are the nautical miles limit from you mainland???

  199. I think this will just unify all of their opposition, like south korea and japan(who really should have put WW2 behind them already).

  200. China- “What is yours is mine and what is mine is mine.” Seems fair.

  201. yup! LOL

  202. srays, stupid idiot go to school and take English dummy!

  203. Tikhonova is full of S**T and doesn’t have a clue about any military capabilities of the US.

  204. China’s military technology is at least 20 years behind the US.
    China doesn’t have a real navy.
    China would lose a war with America faster than S**T goes through a goose.

  205. Are all of your mothers children idiots or just you ? :o)

  206. terry turd
    All china has are interest bearing bonds.
    China can’t call in anything you imbecile.
    They can sell their bonds. Other countries will buy them up immediately.
    China can’t kick America’s butt in any capacity. :o)

  207. Ho
    You are an idiot.
    America will not let China take territory just because China wants it.
    If China wants a war China will get it.

  208. There be no war stop that Paulina just really get lost… Find something really useful in your life to really write about. Media are so negative now a day.

  209. China will never touch America They know better!
    but they go around bullying little countries with their water cannons,, chinese pussies!

  210. WOW! You probably pray to an egg roll !

  211. Your prayed were on the wrong side, Jesus love the poor people’s lIke Vietnam or Philippine.Your chlna want to take all the south Asia sea was not belong to them.God will not listen to you for sure, please thing about it before you pray.

  212. China is trying to choke off every countries in the South China Sea and outside of the region. No country would let that happen.

    China has made a gigantic strategic blunder – make believe this ocean is their and hype up all the available resources to protect this make-believe.

    The title of this article is misleading. It’s not about tiny islands. It’ about freedom of navigation around the world. Another misleading statement made by this article is that if “U.S. invades China’s interests” . No, US does not invade China’s interests. It’s China who invades everyone else interests.

    If China successfully captures this ocean, what will happen when Russia chokes off another area ??? Or North Korea ? Or Iran ???

    US does the right thing. No one can stand up to China except US.

  213. You and your statements are stupid.

  214. I forgot Japan, Taiwan, India and the International community that won’t tolerate Chinese bullying

  215. No problem with Philippines sailing along US. It’s Malaysia, Brunai, Vietnam and the rest who refuse to move as one force against China. They expressing their claim yet stay on the shady side against China and could careless about US assistance.

  216. You got a very wrong impression of God or Jesus. You are probably praying for Satan.

  217. This isn’t about islands. It’s about free and clear passage of vessels of various nations for commerce.

  218. Desert Storm impressed China so much that the US is the only country it copies. US doesn’t need to shoot at Chinese ships. US just need to sink the fake islands and give it back to nature and the war is already won.

  219. Why doesn’t the US and other countries build their own island in the South China sea??

  220. Chinese Commies get their pants wet for nothing. US is practicing freedom of navigation. Not freedom of shooting.

  221. for may years chinese only has Hanan and taiwanese island . 1974 Chinese with power navy took over Vietnamese Island and than other now they want all over the sea Stupic China

  222. I SEND PRAYERS TO GOD TO BLESS CHINA THAT THEY CRUSH THE RACIST AMERICAN AGRESSION IN THE NAME OF JESUS MAY CHINA WIN

  223. For China bullying and stealing are “the art of war”.

  224. The U.S. navy shouldn’t go alone. Phillipines, Vietnam, Malasya, Australia and even U.K. and France should sail along. That should show China it’s involved in a bigger problem

  225. Border retard…..

  226. China can claim the north pole and the south pole. Nobody cares. But if she claim somebody elses backyard like she is doing now, chaos will happen. But the real question is, is China ready to suffer the consequence? US sailed on their fake island and didn’t do anything. That only means they are scared.

  227. When UN asked Israel to stop building settlements did they obey? UN is a joke! UN has no power on China or Israel. If Israel could claimed land then China could claim sea.

  228. Obama is a cursed to USA. 8 years under Obama brings chaos all over the world and USA. Obama would never do anything to upset China. He is a joker!

  229. MOODAK YOUR DELUSIONAL AND NO KNOWLEDGE OF U.S. CAPABILITY. CHINA SHOULD BE CAREFUL WHAT THEY WISH FOR THEIR CHEAP MADE/COPY MILITARY

  230. TERRY THE U.S. WILL SIMPLY WRITE THAT DEBT OFF WITH A WAR WITH CHINA…MANY ARTICLES ABOUT THIS…AND WHO YOU THINK BEEN BUTTERING THEIR BREAD SINCE WW2. THEIR ECONOMY BASED ON THE DOLLAR …TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND COMPANIES FROM THE U.S. PAY FOR THEIR CHEAP MADE COPY MILITARY….GIFT FROM OUR STUPID LEADERS

  231. it’s very simple, (China) don’t be a bully to a bigger bully (America) and OBEY international laws!

  232. YOU SAY ( If China feels that the U.S. invades Chinese interests, the Chinese military will most likely use military force to stop the “American threat.” ) I REALLY DONT THINK CHINA CAN STOP THE U.S. MILITARY…NO. CHINA KNOW U.S. NOT AFRAID TO USE NUKES…DROP THE ATOMM BOMB BEFORE…MANY COUNTRIES AGAINST CHINA…RUSSIA NOT COME TO THE RESCUE…NOT BE DRAWN IN. IN THE END BE CHINA DEMISE

  233. america is all about war stupid, we love to bomb other countries, just look at our history! china, you’re not the bully, america is! America should claim everything on this Earth, period!

  234. Let’s fire the missles at our ships and will see, talk is cheap. China scare that’s why they haven’t done it!
    First, chinese should obey international laws. second, no country on Earth every attacked another country when they sailed in international water and if china wants to do it, go for it. third, china will lose. fourth, America should claim south china sea.

  235. The communist China is bluffing when it says threats of war, it’s part of their intimidation tactics. It’s not China’s territory to begin with and the freedom of navigation for all must be maintained and not be restricted. This 21st century 9-line claim of China should be abolished once and for all.

  236. The funny thing is China is setting her own trap. Just like Japan in pre-WW2. Great strategy, it’s so predictable.

  237. We just buy some more printing machines. What makes you so alarming?

  238. trillions? … you are showing your ignorance! … please use google and look it up! and btw. china is selling US debt at the moment in break neck speed. you know what happens …? … NOTHING! … please die, idiot

  239. Good idea!

  240. It’s all about economy that what the stomach cares.

  241. China never agrees to it as long as it can scare opponents off.

  242. Not to worry about it. They are bluffing. Their real intention is to be able to steal without having a fight.

  243. You can’t call fear mongering journalism. No one wants a war. Even if one side attacks the other, nukes will be used. Everyone knows that.

    Stop peddling this crap.

  244. Sailing in international waters is what China wants to stop by creating sand islands in the middle of the ocean.

    5/26/2015. China Warns of ‘Inevitable’ War with US Over South China Sea

    6/24/2015. War ‘Inevitable’ Between US, China: Chinese Media

    8/11/2015. Cramer: China has launched a trade war on the US

    10/27/2015. Taiwan military says China preparing for possible attack

    10/28/2015. South China Sea: Beijing ‘not frightened to fight a war’ after US move

    China continues to raise tensions by saying it wants to go to war. This is a dangerous plan to save the Chinese Communist Party.

  245. The only degree this “journalist” has is a degree in bullshit.

  246. The only solution to this is for China to stop hallucinating from its illegal 9-line territorial claim. The only extent of China’s territorial limits is its 200 miles from its mainland’s coast. That’s the Exclusive Economic Zone of all countries no matter how big or small its land mass is.

  247. The US needs to provide its allies Japan & S Korea with nuclear weapons
    since they are matured enough, to counter the balance with the bully China.

    Now China will think twice about expansioning & stealing other countries
    land which is far away from them !

  248. Yeah! Only America should be allowed to do whatever we want!!

  249. beggarly.

  250. TutoringServicesNi | Oct 31, 2015, 8:28 am at 8:28 am |

    Good and informative article by Polina.Tichonova above ! The motivations for China are economic , as well as world stature :

    (a) Valuable Fishing Rights and Crude Oil Drilling Rigs Locations are at stake, which is why Vietnam, Philippines, and other China Sea neighbors are so angry with China’s brilliant Engineering achievements in building upon subsurface Reefs to create Strategic Military Islands which have Military Landing Air Strips guarded by various Antiaircraft Weapons,

    (b) China is enhancing its prestige by standing up to the U.S. Navy claim to International Waters, and so the next time the USS Lassan Destroyer enters inside the 12 mile Limit, China has now publicly warned the U.S. that it will use a Silkworm Missile to sink it as they did to a British Destroyer in the Faullkan Island War decades ago ! Even a U.S. Aircraft Carrier can be sunk by China’s new Ballistic Missile that they paraded recently to celebrate their 70th Anniversary of Victory in WW II.

    In the face of these new China Policy Statements from their top Leadership yesterday, does President Obama have the stomach to continue to back the ambitious U.S. Admiral Harris ? ! Oct 31, 2015.

  251. Chinas navy consists of over a thousand fishing boats that serve as satellites that inform China’s coast guard and navy of incursions to their so called sovereign territory. These fishing boats are overfishing with impunity all asian waters of their existing fish stocks and nobody seems to give a shit. China must and will be put in check. The world is watching you.

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  253. China cannot be allowed to continue with those aggression and irresponsible behavior. Otherwise, countries around the world will build artificial islands claiming limits around them. Russia alone would go on a merry building spree including all troublemakers. It will be a serious worldwide problems. And it will not satiate China’s appetite. Soon it will grab smaller islands or nations.

  254. China can kick our &&^& simply by calling in the Trillion’s we owe them. This has been said over and over the USA owes China and our stock market would fall in minutes. But it also could hurt there Market also BUT to beat us by Loans would be the first time a Super Power lost by Default Loans.

  255. china is getting too paranoid with the consequence of building those islands… simply guilty !

  256. You and what army? Remember where you will be fighting a war, report stated that Chinese ships in that area outnumbered the US 2 to 1, and we shouldn’t forget their anti ship missiles would of course outnumber the US, and before you talk about quality, the US was never known for the quality of their missiles, I think the only one walking in a trap is you know who.

  257. If the Chinese use military force against the US then it fell for the trap and the trap is sprung, the US wins. If China doesn’t attack and continues to just talk then nothing will happen. If they decide to use force then they fell for it and it’s game over for China’s interests.

  258. The best article from Tikhonova that speak up for China.

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