Windows 9 Concept With More Familiar Look And Start Menu

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Windows 9 Concept With More Familiar Look And Start Menu

Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT)’s Windows 9 is expected to be announced in April 2015. After a disastrous response to Windows 8, the software giant badly needs to make a strong comeback with Windows 9 as Google Inc’s Chrome OS is gaining momentum. So far, Microsoft has been tight-lipped about details of its upcoming PC operating system. But the company may spill the beans next month at its Build developers conference.

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His concept design shows a brand new Start menu and a familiar look that is friendlier to beginners as well as experienced users. The new Start menu provides quick access to recently used apps, while grouping Metro apps such as Weather and Skype. The designer said that, though it’s not shown in the picture above, users will be able to switch between the Start menu interface and full-screen Modern UI.

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Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) said on February 14 that the company has sold more than 200 million licensed copies of Windows 8 OS since its launch in late 2012. But the release of Windows 9 should put Windows 8 to rest.

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  1. Under the hood 8/8.1 is good. There is no need for a new version of Windows with something that can be fixed via 8.2. The problem is the “Metro/Modern UI/ugly block things” on a “regular pc” like we use for work. Metro is great if you have a touch screen. The best solution as of now is a free program called “Classic Shell” it brings back the start button from 7 (see screen shot), and brings up the “traditional” start menu by pressing the “Windows Button.” Hand Gestures on a touch screen bring up the Metro interfaces to get to the “Start Screen.”

    The biggest complaint is that this option wasn’t built in from the start of 8. It should have been. If a guy can do this in his free time, then Microsoft can do this in it’s next update. Or just put a personalization button that lets you choose between Modern and Classic UI. The only thing wrong with 8.1 is the UI. On my work PC I haven’t seen the Start Screen in a few weeks after installing Classic Shell.

    [I in no way benefit, nor am I associated with Classic Shell. I’m just glad to have my Start Menu back]

  2. I think what all these Win8 apologists don’t understand is that you can’t fix Win 8 the way Microsoft wants to. They and others keep trying to make the OS more familiar for us stupid users who according to MS can’t deal with change. This indicates how little they understand the animosity towards Win8. The problem is not the lack of familiarity. I don’t care if they change the entire OS so not one thing is recognizable as long as the end product is more productive. Win8’s design happens to be less productive even after you know it inside out. That’s because it’s a pain to use with a mouse and keyboard on large multi-screen desktop workstation environments. This design with huge oversized everything is not good for large 30″ screens with 2650×1900 res. Even less so when we’ll get 4k. We have to move the mouse too much to navigate these ginormous interfaces that are meant for touch and are a complete waste of screen real estate. Desktop users need small compact interfaces with dense content and short mouse movements. I didn’t buy three 30″ screens to have one occupied entirely by 5 large icons. I bought them for density of content to simultaneously work with lots of apps without switching back and forth.

    The only way to fix this is to completely eliminate the whole metro crap, at least for the desktop. I just don’t understand why there can’t be a switch when you first install, to opt out of metro. Why should desktop users that will never need touch be burdened with an interface made for giant fingers. Total stupidity.

    So this concept start menu is crap as well. Why? Because again we are back to baby toy land where everything is oversized like Romper Room. Same problem packed in a more familiar interface is still the same problem. I don’t care how it looks but bring back a dense and small start menu. Again the mouse is built for small touch points so things should be small for mice allowing small hand movements.

  3. Well I like the windows 8, but not the tiles. Bar the window borders everything is fine. Transparency will be appreciated with the panel, but the start menu with transparency will make things harder.

    Let’s I say I just placed a notepad just behind the space where start menu launches. I think it will be harder to read from the menu :)

    Don’t you think ??

  4. God, if that’s what Windows 9 start menu looks like I will be skipping that version too. Microsoft needs to understand that people don’t like metro and we don’t want those stupid smart tiles. the small icons and text in winows 7 and earlier were more than enough. we have widgets for anything that needs to be kept up to date (calendars and time) and everything else should run as a program. everything that has anything to do with the look of Windows 8 needs to be thrown out. it wasn’t just the metro start screen that made Windows 8 fail, it was the overall butt ugliness of the entire hi.

  5. I am because you’re repeating yourself, and it’s not an insult to have autism no matter what you think. You’re either autistic or have OCD, maybe both since people tend to have OCD co-morbid with autism.

    I mean look at this comment you made with 5 out of my 1 paragraph comment. Clearly you aren’t mentally sound…

  6. There you go again with the insults. And you’re completely disregarding everything I said just now because you know that I pointed out all your comment’s flaws. Rather than trying to make amends with me and cease the argument, you’re just letting it continue more by calling me arrogant and autistic.
    The problem with your comments is that you supply plenty of negative feedback, but nothing positive. And I’m pretty sure that because I’m explaining what’s really going on, you’ll disregard what I said here too and totally deny it.
    Because of that, this will *really* be my last post, because you just want to continue and keep arguing with me. You said it yourself that you won’t stop, and that’s the true nature of a troll.
    So, bye.

  7. Do you suffer from autism or something similar? It’s hard to believe you’re this messed up in the head, that you are so arrogant and can’t take the fact that people don’t like your design. So you make up in your mind that the people who don’t like it really do and are just trolling.

  8. Alright, well thank you for toning down your latest comment. You stopped swearing, so now you sound less angry. However:

    “You’re deluding yourself.”

    So basically you’re admitting to being a troll, because this quote was in response to me saying that I had hoped you would stop replying to prove that you weren’t one. Thank you for proving my point.

    “You’re the one jumping to conclusions yet you call me a troll”

    You also did by saying MS would fail and saying most people wouldn’t figure out my design.

    “I think everyone examining your behavior is going to realise you’re the troll here.”

    I wasn’t the one that started all the swearing. Let me list some things you said so far:

    — “put borders around your fucking cluttered shit menu.”
    Not constructive, offensive, rude-toned

    — “Your start menu shows the weather, oh boohoo! Oh look, I can also get a fucking gadget in the corner that shows me the weather instead of filling the start menu with bullshit.”

    More mindless complaining and swearing.

    — “Again, the lack of borders in shit menu…”
    Rude toned by calling it “shit menu”.

    There’s more that you did earlier, but I don’t need to copy and paste more here. Scroll up and look for it yourself.

    Next….

    “I don’t have my own definition of constructive criticism.”

    That……. actually made sense.

    “You’re quite the hypocrite aren’t you? I wasn’t the one with the big ego saying how jealous other people are of some fucking concept art.”

    Again, here you are swearing as always. There’s no need for it, that’s why I feel like you’re being angry. It *is* true that people will make negative comments if they’re jealous of the original poster’s work. Additionally, I feel that it’s not me who has the big ego; it’s you. I say that because you’re making assumptions that you know better than me, you continuously reply to this discussion after I requested to leave it alone, and you’re attempting to block out the facts that you were inappropriate and rude first. Like I said, I won’t swear at you if you don’t. I’ll treat you the way you treat me. (Of course, you won’t see it that way because your perspective of things seems to be much different than mine… That’s not necessarily bad in general, but it is for the sake of us reaching some kind of end to this argument.)

    “How does that not make sense? I’m honestly considering you have some sort of disorder. I don’t find it familiar to the style that was used from windows 95-7 and then stated that I was getting tired of how they named their Windows products.”

    Okay, THIS I can sort of agree with. (Whether or not I have a disability is none of your concern). You’re right in that my design isn’t like what Windows 95-7 used. But is that any reason to not have an open mind and try something new? If you actually throw out the negative attitude towards it and analyze the positive aspects of this design I made, you may realize what I was trying to do with it and understand it better.

    “Because I don’t need to, it’s pretty obvious that it is a MAJOR difference between the old start menu and the new one. You said it yourself, you said it was modernised.”

    Well like I said above, I understand that you mean it’s not *exactly like* the old start menus. But again, what’s wrong with having an open mind and trying something new?

    “I wasn’t being critical at all, just pointed out that it’s not familiar to the old start menu.”

    I wasn’t talking about being critical, I was talking about being *constructive*.

    “And I pointed out the fact that they won’t last very long due to the fact that most of the users of Windows don’t like this new Metro style. Maybe mobile and touchscreen users will, but not PC users.”

    Okay, but later I did point out that the issue with Modern UI was that it felt like two operating systems and it hid a number of basic functions. *That’s* what people didn’t like about it, and there were several articles I’ve read online that describe the problem as being that.

    “And that’s why not many people will get it, you’ll see a good number of touchscreen users getting it but that’s it. Desktop users for the most part won’t get this.”

    They will if they take the time to actually look around on the interface and be observant. It’s pretty clear to me that under “Recent Apps” it displays your recently opened programs, and the “Recent Files” displays your recently opened files. Pretty self-explanatory, right? Nothing hidden there. You’ve got the “All Apps” button, which would take you to a list of apps (Not sure if you saw the other picture with the actual apps list, but I made one.) You have a search bar with a magnifying glass, which most people could probably identify easily. And finally, you’ve got the power and settings buttons at the bottom which serve as what their icons clearly represent. I don’t know… I didn’t think it was that hard to figure out the layout…

    “I didn’t imply that at all, you’re simplying making up something to add to the flames so you can continue fighting with me.”

    You implied it by pointing out many small negative details about my design. At least for me, you gave yourself off as some kind of experienced GUI designer. Providing no positive input didn’t help either; you have not said one good thing that I did right, yet everyone else I’ve shown it to (including the other person that commented here) said the design is good.

    “I don’t need to, I’m happy with the start menu on Windows 7 so if I was to it would be exactly like the one on 7.”

    Fair enough.

    “You think certain people are not allowed to judge? Because that’s not the case…”

    If you have the experience and/or a job in GUI design, it would certainly make your critique more credible.

    “Yeah I know, your logic is flawed.”

    Maybe, but in that case you might want to stay away from trying to take my logic and using it against me…

  9. “Damn… You didn’t reply for quite a while. I thought you actually weren’t a troll and were going to stop.”

    You’re deluding yourself.

    “Well, hmm… let’s see, I could back out of this, but then you’ll say “HA, I WIN, YOU COULDN’T EXPLAIN YOURSELF. TROLL TROLL TROLL LOLIGAG”

    You’re the one jumping to conclusions yet you call me a troll

    “If I go ahead and continue, you’ll say “HA, YOU REPLIED, TROLL TROLL TROLL HAHAHA FUCK YOU”

    I think everyone examining your behavior is going to realise you’re the troll here.

    “Anyway, I’d love to hear your definition of constructive criticism.”

    I don’t have my own defintion of constructive criticism.

    “Yours appears to have something to do with making offensive remarks and comments that are either negative or just make no sense whatsoever.”

    You’re quite the hypocrite aren’t you? I wasn’t the one with the big ego saying how jealous other people are of some fucking concept art.

    “Sorry, but your very first comment just made no sense to me. Let’s re-read it:

    That’s… not familiar. And I hope they don’t call it Windows 9, sick of simple numbers.”

    How does that not make sense? I’m honestly considering you have some sort of disorder. I don’t find it familiar to the style that was used from windows 95-7 and then stated that I was getting tired of how they named their Windows products.

    “You don’t explain why it’s unfamiliar, and what the hell is wrong with “Windows 9″ for a name?”

    Because I don’t need to, it’s pretty obvious that it is a MAJOR difference between the old start menu and the new one. You said it yourself, you said it was modernised.

    “Also, no constructive criticism there. Just complaining that it isn’t familiar, and complaining about the Windows 9 name.”

    I wasn’t being critical at all, just pointed out that it’s not familiar to the old start menu.

    “Now let’s see my response to you:

    It’s definitely more familiar than other concepts I’ve seen (no offense to them though). It won’t baffle people as much as the current UI does.

    Besides, even if Microsoft reinstates the Start menu again, there’s almost no chance Microsoft will remake the same exact Start menu that was in Windows XP or Windows 7. So we might as well expect something different. :P

    Okay. I made a reasonable comment stating that my concept wasn’t as confusing as other concepts (I don’t want to actually cite examples, but they’re out there if you search Google Images for ‘Windows 9 concept’).”

    And I pointed out the fact that they won’t last very long due to the fact that most of the users of Windows don’t like this new Metro style. Maybe mobile and touchscreen users will, but not PC users.

    “I’m actually intrigued to know what you think of them, because some of them make HUGE changes to the desktop interface, and they alter it way more than my start menu does.”

    You’re missing the point, it’s still not familiar.

    “Anyway, I finish the comment by saying Microsoft won’t make the same exact Start menu that was in Windows XP or Windows 7, which turned out that I was right.”

    And that’s why not many people will get it, you’ll see a good number of touchscreen users getting it but that’s it. Desktop users for the most part won’t get this.

    “Since you imply that you’re so skilled at designing a start menu, please humor me and make your own. I’d love to see it.”

    I didn’t imply that at all, you’re simplying making up something to add to the flames so you can continue fighting with me.

    “But no, seriously, show me what YOU would do. This should be interesting. Even if you whip up something in paint, prove me that you can make something better.”

    I don’t need to, I’m happy with the start menu on Windows 7 so if I was to it would be exactly like the one on 7.

    “What do you do for work anyway? (Not that I expect you to tell the truth, but I’m just curious as to what your answer is that gives you the credentials to judge start menu designs, besides the fact that you’re a customer.)”

    You think certain people are not allowed to judge? Because that’s not the case…

    “Also, I can flip around your flipping around of my logic and tell you that you’re trolling by replying. (If you flip this around again, that would actually be pretty funny. Wanna keep this going?)”

    Yeah I know, your logic is flawed.

  10. Damn… You didn’t reply for quite a while. I thought you actually weren’t a troll and were going to stop.

    Well, hmm… let’s see, I could back out of this, but then you’ll say “HA, I WIN, YOU COULDN’T EXPLAIN YOURSELF. TROLL TROLL TROLL LOLIGAG”

    If I go ahead and continue, you’ll say “HA, YOU REPLIED, TROLL TROLL TROLL HAHAHA FUCK YOU”

    Oh well, can’t win ’em all. But then, since we’re both replying to each other…. doesn’t that technically make us BOTH trolls? Well no, because you’re the one bashing on me and not trying to help calm the argument down. I’ll stop when you stop. But you also stated yourself that you’ll keep going, so I guess you just get a thrill from arguing with people? OH MY GOD, are you trolling?? Noooo, it can’t be.

    Anyway, I’d love to hear your definition of constructive criticism. Yours appears to have something to do with making offensive remarks and comments that are either negative or just make no sense whatsoever. The word fuck is used to portray anger. Want me to count all the “fucks” you’ve written up till now? xD Anyway, sorry, but your very first comment just made no sense to me. Let’s re-read it:

    “That’s… not familiar. And I hope they don’t call it Windows 9, sick of simple numbers.”

    You don’t explain why it’s unfamiliar, and what the hell is wrong with “Windows 9” for a name? You’re sick of simple numbers? What do you want then? Windows E=MC^2? Also, no constructive criticism there. Just complaining that it isn’t familiar, and complaining about the Windows 9 name. Now let’s see my response to you:

    “It’s definitely more familiar than other concepts I’ve seen (no offense to them though). It won’t baffle people as much as the current UI does.

    Besides, even if Microsoft reinstates the Start menu again, there’s almost no chance Microsoft will remake the same exact Start menu that was in Windows XP or Windows 7. So we might as well expect something different. :P”

    Okay. First of all, can you tell me where my terrible attitude was in there? I made a reasonable comment stating that my concept wasn’t as confusing as other concepts (I don’t want to actually cite examples, but they’re out there if you search Google Images for ‘Windows 9 concept’). I’m actually intrigued to know what you think of them, because some of them make HUGE changes to the desktop interface, and they alter it way more than my start menu does. Anyway, I finish the comment by saying Microsoft won’t make the same exact Start menu that was in Windows XP or Windows 7, which turned out that I was right. The new Windows 8 start menu bears some resemblance to Windows 7’s, but isn’t exactly the same, and it’s definitely no XP Start menu.

    Since you imply that you’re so skilled at designing a start menu, please humor me and make your own. I’d love to see it. I picture in my head huge 16 pixel borders that a photo camera from the late 1890’s could still pick up. I also picture no tiles, a grey background, and 7 things to choose from: Programs >, Documents >, Settings >, Find, Help, Run, and Shut Down. Actually no wait, let’s put those in alphabetical order, because they need to be organized somehow: Documents >, Find, Help, Programs >, Run, Shut Down. There you go, organized alphabetically. I dunno. Lol.

    But no, seriously, show me what YOU would do. This should be interesting. Even if you whip up something in paint, prove me that you can make something better.

    What do you do for work anyway? (Not that I expect you to tell the truth, but I’m just curious as to what your answer is that gives you the credentials to judge start menu designs, besides the fact that you’re ‘the customer.’)

    Also, I can flip around your flipping around of my logic and tell you that you’re trolling by replying. (If you flip this around again, that would actually be pretty funny. Wanna keep this going?)

    By the way, I was scrolling through your other posts, and found this:

    “This article is stupid, I hope the next time you’re on a plane it crashes.”
    Yep, that’s totally not offensive/trolling whatsoever.

    You will want to stop while you’re ahead, because I’ve emailed staff at ValueWalk, and I have more proof about your abusiveness than what you do in this article.

    Well, I gotta head to bed. See you tomorrow!

  11. “You should re-read what you said there, because those are pretty angry-sounding parts in my opinion. No constructive suggestions whatsoever, just negativity and swearing all around. I wasn’t swearing until you started doing it. It’s pretty obvious you are the troll here.”

    How are those angry “sounding” when it’s a bunch of words you’re LOOKING at? And I wasn’t angry for the record, also most people who say someone’s angry over the internet are actually trolls. Just saying, you’re a hypocrite…

    I gave you many constructive suggestions, one of them was to at least put borders around your fucking cluttered shit menu.

    “Since I have some time though, I’ll go ahead and tell you how your arguments make no sense.”

    If they make no sense, then how are you even replying?

    “1) My start menu shows 23 items, the windows 7 start menu shows 22. Look at my picture, then Google search for an image of WIndows 7’s start menu. You don’t need links for that.”

    Your start menu shows the weather, oh boohoo! Oh look, I can also get a fucking gadget in the corner that shows me the weather instead of filling the start menu with bullshit.

    “2) No borders? Complaining for the sake of complaining– signs of a troll…”

    How am I the troll here? You’re the one who’s constantly going “LOL”, “XD”, “UMAD BRAH” at me. Idiot.

    “Unless of course your eyesight is actually that bad that you can’t tell everything is enclosed in a semi-transparent box.”

    There is a difference between a semi-transparent box and a border, I can’t understand why you don’t see the difference.

    “In that case, here’s a constructive suggestion you COULD’VE made: to allow the user to change the transparency value of the start menu box.”

    But NO, that’s like making a completely different OS! Duh!

    “3) Having live tiles is a flaw? No, it’s nice, because it takes all your internet accounts that you use and integrates them right into the desktop.”

    And what about the people who don’t want it?

    “That means for people with poor eyesight, like you (not trying to offend you, you pointed it out yourself), it’s less clicks and less of an effort to get to your Facebook, email, etc.”

    I don’t care about less clicks, I want everything organised.

    “It modernizes the start menu, and the official start menu is going to do it too.”

    So what? Just because something’s modern, doesn’t make it better.

    “Besides, it’s already been mentioned that the option is there to bypass the tiles. Another constructive suggestion you could have made: Allow the users to turn off the tiles display.”

    BUT AGAIN WAIT, THAT’S LIKE MAKING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OS!

    “4) The settings button is next to the power button, so what? Your A key is right next to the S key, but you can still type perfectly fine. The X button on your browser is right next to the Maximize button.”

    The keyboard actually gives you a distinction, to tell when which buttons are which. Again, the lack of borders in shit menu…

    “In the taskbar, all your program icons are right next to each other. And yet despite all that, you can navigate your way to this webpage just fine. This complaint is TOTALLY invalid…”

    It’s cluttered, that’s why it’s hard to navigate in.

    “6) Using emotes has nothing to do with any of this. You’re pointing out details about me in attempts to further attack me. Fortunately I’m not taking offense at all. (And I’m sure you’ll deny that you were trying to anyway)”

    Yes it does, people who go “XD”, “LOL”, “UMAD” are trolls. I’m not attacking you, I’m pointing out an observation of an action or two which you’ve willingly done. You’re the one who is name calling, you’re the one who is going saying I’m mad, you’re the one who is getting a thrill out of this, not me.

    Jesus, are you autistic or something?

    “I’d like to say that if you are not really a troll, you would’ve stopped replying a while ago.”

    If I was a troll, I would be “LOL”ing at this like you were.

    “By definition, trolls won’t stop until people stop responding to them,”

    Ok, but I’m not a troll I just think you’re up your ass about your own creation. A while back you claimed I was “jealous” and you were laughing at me.

    “because they purposefully try and provoke them into arguing some more, and your comment right there pretty much proves that you’re doing just that with me.”

    No you don’t understand, it’s the OTHER WAY AROUND. You provoked me with your asshole-ish attitude, troll.

    “Another person who isn’t a troll would’ve stopped replying two days ago because now that Microsoft introduced the new start menu, it’s no longer relevant to keep discussing about this concept.”

    I don’t know which Windows I saw but it did NOT have this start menu, although it was still shit it certainly wasn’t this bad.

    “So please prove me wrong and don’t reply anymore. I’d like to know that I was in the wrong and you aren’t a troll.”

    You’re not going to persuade me. You’re doing what most people do, only give them “two options” when in reality there’s more to it than that. You’re saying “if you’re not a troll you wouldn’t be replying” which is this exact behavior I’m talking about, also if I took your logic I can turn it around on you and say you’re a troll for replying back.

  12. “Have you been living under a rock?”
    “So fucking what?”
    “Your start menu provides less listed programs, is clunky as fuck, lacks any borders leading to people with eyesight problems (like me) to accidentally clicking on something like the shutdown button (which you’ve put near the settings button), has the fucking weather in it and site links! The start menu was never for any of that shit!”

    You should re-read what you said there, because those are pretty angry-sounding parts in my opinion. No constructive suggestions whatsoever, just negativity and swearing all around. I wasn’t swearing until you started doing it. It’s pretty obvious you are the troll here.

    Since I have some time though, I’ll go ahead and tell you how your arguments make no sense.

    1) My start menu shows 23 items, the windows 7 start menu shows 22. Look at my picture, then Google search for an image of WIndows 7’s start menu. You don’t need links for that.
    2) No borders? Complaining for the sake of complaining– signs of a troll… Unless of course your eyesight is actually that bad that you can’t tell everything is enclosed in a semi-transparent box. In that case, here’s a constructive suggestion you COULD’VE made: to allow the user to change the transparency value of the start menu box.
    3) Having live tiles is a flaw? No, it’s nice, because it takes all your internet accounts that you use and integrates them right into the desktop. That means for people with poor eyesight, like you (not trying to offend you, you pointed it out yourself), it’s less clicks and less of an effort to get to your Facebook, email, etc. It modernizes the start menu, and the official start menu is going to do it too. Besides, it’s already been mentioned that the option is there to bypass the tiles. Another constructive suggestion you could have made: Allow the users to turn off the tiles display.
    4) The settings button is next to the power button, so what? Your A key is right next to the S key, but you can still type perfectly fine. The X button on your browser is right next to the Maximize button. In the taskbar, all your program icons are right next to each other. And yet despite all that, you can navigate your way to this webpage just fine. This complaint is TOTALLY invalid…
    6) Using emotes has nothing to do with any of this. You’re pointing out details about me in attempts to further attack me. Fortunately I’m not taking offense at all. (And I’m sure you’ll deny that you were trying to anyway)

    And finally, about this comment:

    “You won’t go on any longer because you know I won’t stop replying.”

    I’d like to say that if you are not really a troll, you would’ve stopped replying a while ago. By definition, trolls won’t stop until people stop responding to them, because they purposefully try and provoke them into arguing some more, and your comment right there pretty much proves that you’re doing just that with me. Another person who isn’t a troll would’ve stopped replying two days ago because now that Microsoft introduced the new start menu, it’s no longer relevant to keep discussing about this concept.

    So please prove me wrong and don’t reply anymore. I’d like to know that I was in the wrong and you aren’t a troll. You’d actually be doing me a huge favor because I didn’t even want to keep this going as long as it did (hence the way I ended my last post). Thanks in advance.

  13. “XD Or are you just jealous because you have no design talent whatsoever?”

    Are you just coming to the conclusion that I am jealous of you because you can’t explain the flaws I pointed out in your start menu?

    “Actually, after your fuse blowing off in that last comment with all the swearing and negativity, I’m pretty sure you’re just a gluten for people teeing off at you due to your trolling.”

    No I’m not the one trolling here, you’re the one who is making assumptions about me and making “laughing” emoticons.

    “Secondly, don’t tell me there’s something wrong with my design and then go on to admit that your eyesight is poor. That’s just fuckin’ stupid bro. XD”

    Again, you proved that you’re the only one who seems to be getting a thrill out of this. And I can tell you what’s wrong with your design, I did and you could not prevent it.

    “Thirdly, all you’re doing now is getting madder and madder because you know I can design something that you can’t. Boo hoo. Go ahead and cry about it.”

    I don’t even see how I am even the one remotely trolling here, especially when compared to your remarks.

    “Anyway, this whole thing is irrelevant now because we already know what the new start menu looks like. So you can go cry about it some more,”

    It doesn’t seem I am the one who blew a fuse, judging by your attitude now.

    “because it uses the tiles like in my design, it “lacks borders” like mine does, and the “fucking weather and site links” are in it, just like my design.”

    I don’t need to get it then.

    “LOL!!!!! Live with the facts man: You’re just one perspective out of billions, who’s pissed off because he doesn’t control the world.”

    I’m not pissed off nor do I have an interest in controlling the world, it’s quite hypocritical of you coming to that conclusion since you’re the one who’s on about perspective and such.

    “So this is where I’m gonna stop commenting, because you’re not worth my time any longer. I don’t owe you any more shit than I already told you.”

    You won’t go on any longer because you know I won’t stop replying.

    “Happy trolling!”

    Again, it’s pretty obvious I’m not the troll here.

  14. Why do you even care anymore? They already demoed the new start menu today. XD Or are you just jealous because you have no design talent whatsoever? After your fuse blowing off in that last comment with all the swearing and negativity, I’m pretty sure you’re just a gluten for people teeing off at you due to your trolling. Oh well.

    Every website has one. :P

  15. “First of all, I came to that conclusion because you implied that you know for sure Microsoft will fail, based on your idea that they need to reinstate a Windows XP/7 styled start menu. However, they don’t necessarily need to do that.”

    That was a fact, or have you been living under a rock? Most Windows users don’t want anything Metro looking, they want something that looks organised. Ones that tend to like anything like this UI tend to be mobile users.

    “From how I understand it, the actual issue is that Modern UI’s basic functions are hidden, making it difficult for new users to learn it. It also feels like two separate operating systems, and it’s very jarring changing between the two UI’s.

    So fucking what? It’s only “your personal” perspective that it feels like two seperate operating systems…

    “My start menu design resolves these issues because all of the start menu functions are visible in the interface, and it is clearly implemented within the Desktop environment, fixing the “Jeckyll and Hyde” sensation that exists in Windows 8/8.1.”

    Your start menu provides less listed programs, is clunky as fuck, lacks any borders leading to people with eyesight problems (like me) to accidentally clicking on something like the shutdown button (which you’ve put near the settings button), has the fucking weather in it and site links! The start menu was never for any of that shit!

    “Secondly, I honestly tried to give you the links to the posts I made, but this comment system doesn’t allow it. If you do a Google search for “Windows 9 forum”, the first couple of results should be 3 of the forums I posted in. Because Windows 9 isn’t out yet, there are very few topics in these forums, so finding mine about my concept should be relatively easy. I also made a post in the chatterbox on eightforums.”

    What’s your username on those forums?

  16. “First of all, I came to that conclusion because you implied that you know for sure Microsoft will fail, based on your idea that they need to reinstate a Windows XP/7 styled start menu. However, they don’t necessarily need to do that.”

    That was a fact, or have you been living under a rock? Most Windows users don’t want anything Metro looking, they want something that looks organised. Ones that tend to like anything like this UI tend to be mobile users.

    “From how I understand it, the actual issue is that Modern UI’s basic functions are hidden, making it difficult for new users to learn it. It also feels like two separate operating systems, and it’s very jarring changing between the two UI’s.

    So fucking what? It’s only “your personal” perspective that it feels like two seperate operating systems…

    “My start menu design resolves these issues because all of the start menu functions are visible in the interface, and it is clearly implemented within the Desktop environment, fixing the “Jeckyll and Hyde” sensation that exists in Windows 8/8.1.”

    Your start menu provides less listed programs, is clunky as fuck, lacks any borders leading to people with eyesight problems (like me) to accidentally clicking on something like the shutdown button (which you’ve put near the settings button), has the fucking weather in it and site links! The start menu was never for any of that shit!

    “Secondly, I honestly tried to give you the links to the posts I made, but this comment system doesn’t allow it. If you do a Google search for “Windows 9 forum”, the first couple of results should be 3 of the forums I posted in. Because Windows 9 isn’t out yet, there are very few topics in these forums, so finding mine about my concept should be relatively easy. I also made a post in the chatterbox on eightforums.”

    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=702950
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Windows%208

  17. First of all, I came to that conclusion because you implied that you know for sure Microsoft will fail, based on your idea that they need to reinstate a Windows XP/7 styled start menu. However, they don’t necessarily need to do that.

    From how I understand it, the actual issue is that Modern UI’s basic functions are hidden, making it difficult for new users to learn it. It also feels like two separate operating systems, and it’s very jarring changing between the two UI’s. My start menu design resolves these issues because all of the start menu functions are visible in the interface, and it is clearly implemented within the Desktop environment, fixing the “Jeckyll and Hyde” sensation that exists in Windows 8/8.1.

    Secondly, I honestly tried to give you the links to the posts I made, but this comment system doesn’t allow it. If you do a Google search for “Windows 9 forum”, the first couple of results should be 3 of the forums I posted in. Because Windows 9 isn’t out yet, there are very few topics in these forums, so finding mine about my concept should be relatively easy. I also made a post in the chatterbox on eightforums.

  18. Tell me what motivated you to come to the conclusion that I was close minded enough to think everyone agrees with a perspective I have? Because it seems to me that all I was doing was speaking what I had to say, I don’t think I said anywhere that “everyone agrees with what I have said.”

    Oh and I’d like it if you provide links to these posts you made on these 4 different forums.

  19. just have a default xp/win 7 style desktop mode option if people want to monkey around with their silly nonsense they can, but I’m not going through the same bullsh8t again. This thing looks like the inbred offspring of aero/metro, keep it simple and refined.

  20. Interesting perspective you have. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with it.
    I’ve shown this concept to many people on 4 different forums, and actually nearly everyone loved it.

  21. It’s definitely more familiar than other concepts I’ve seen (no offense to them though). It won’t baffle people as much as the current UI does.

    Besides, even if Microsoft reinstates the Start menu again, there’s almost no chance Microsoft will remake the same exact Start menu that was in Windows XP or Windows 7. So we might as well expect something different. :P

  22. Damn, that sucks about your tablet dude. I wonder if you can make a USB boot disk with windows 8.1 on it and reinstall it on the tablet that way. Universal USB Installer will allow you to make a bootable flash drive out of a variety of installation disk ISO files. You would probably need a keyboard and mouse plugged into it initially during the installation process i’m thinking. I’ve always wanted to play around with one of those x86-based tablets.

    By the way, thanks for the compliment on my design! Hope you can fix your tablet soon. ^^

  23. It’s pretty good concept. But somehow i wondered why microsoft doesn’t combine the ui of windows phone and microsoft office 2013?!…. both ui are real cool: simple, no distraction, focus, straight forward!.
    By the way… i got trouble with my windows 8 tablet. It is asus vivotab smart. It still fail to boot up and required a windows repair disk, thought. I did not made it becaus i thought it doesn’t needed since this system is now mobile like google android which is doesn’t need any external aid to recover it self. So… then i see that windows 8 is actually not a mobile os. It is desktop os that has touchscreen feature….. i browse all review at the internet about windows 8 before i buy this tablet and no body warn me about this or cover this matter…..!!!! :(

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