The Real Obamacare Nightmare is Just Beginning

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The Real Obamacare Nightmare is Just Beginning

April 23rd, 2014

by Gary Halbert

of Halbert Wealth Management


1. Finally, Some Bright Spots in the Economy

2. The Real Obamacare Nightmare is Just Beginning

3. HWM ALPHA ADVANTAGE Webinar Recording

4. Some Parting Thoughts About Easter


Last Thursday, the Obama administration said that a total of eight million Americans had signed up for Obamacare. In a hastily called press event, President Obama spiked the football, took a victory lap around the White House and declared the healthcare law a smashing success – although they still haven’t told us how many enrollees have actually paid a premium, or how many were simply replacing their policies that were canceled due to Obamacare.

In any event, the millions of Americans who have purchased health insurance on the government exchanges are in for another round of shocks as they begin to try to actually use their new healthcare insurance. New nightmares are being reported almost daily and we’re only getting started.

The problems that will create the next Obamacare headlines will come in three main areas: 1) lack of access to doctors, 2) failures of the system to verify coverage and pay claims, and 3) the incredibly high deductibles and copays on the exchange insurance policies. I have reprinted an excellent article on this growing nightmare below.

Yet before we go there, let’s take a look at a few recent economic reports that are actually encouraging. Also, our webinar last Wednesday on the HWM Alpha Advantage investment opportunity was one of the most highly attended web events we have ever done. The presentation was excellent and the questions from attendees were spot-on. To view the webinar, CLICK HERE.

Finally, Some Bright Spots in the Economy

After a very cold winter with lots of confusing economic data, some important recent indicators suggest that the economy may be coming out of hibernation at last. We’ll take a look at these reports below. After a strong showing in the 3Q of last year, with GDP jumping a better than expected 4.1% (annual rate), the economy disappointed in the 4Q with growth of only 2.6%.

In addition, we had a couple of lousy jobs reports late last year. In December, for instance, the economy added just 84,000 new jobs, less than half of what it had been averaging the previous two years. Second, consumer confidence which had risen for much of 2013 declined rather sharply in the final months of last year.

Then came other disappointing readings earlier this year including poor auto sales in January and the Institute for Supply Management’s disappointing report on the service sector in February, which showed the weakest expansion of activity in four years – just to name a few of the numerous disappointments late last year and early this year.

One after one, the disappointing economic reports were blamed on the bad weather much of the country experienced in January and February. But other forecasters worried that the slump might be more ominous and that the recovery might be slipping back into a new recession. Many said it was wrong to place the blame on the bad weather.

However, some recent economic reports suggest that the blame-the-weather crowd may have been right to dismiss a severe winter full of worrying data. Here are three reasons why it appears that the economy may have shaken off the cold-weather blues.

1. Retail Sales. The Commerce Department reported last week that retail sales increased 1.1% in March, above the 0.9% increase economists were expecting. The increase was also the largest month-to-month rise since September 2012, suggesting that consumers had been waiting for warmer weather to spend more.

2. New Car Sales. US GDP is composed primarily of consumer spending. So when shoppers are spending on big-ticket items like cars, this is a good sign for economic output and, ultimately, job growth. That’s why economists were heartened earlier this month when automakers announced that they had sold, at an annualized rate, 16.4 million new cars in March – the highest number since June 2006.

Again, we see the effects of the weather. The jump was much higher than analysts expected and, according to an analysis by Gary Thayer, chief macro strategist for Wells Fargo Advisors, “Some of the car and truck sales were probably pent-up demand from the temporary dip during the past few months.”

In other words, don’t expect increases in sales of the same magnitude each month, but rather take the most recent jump as making up for a weak winter. Still, the recovery in auto sales is definitely encouraging.

3. Jobless Claims. For most Americans, economic data is meaningful only when it touches their lives. Is it easy or hard for me to get a job, start a business, and grow my income? This is why the press pays so much attention to monthly jobless data, which can, unfortunately, be very noisy and unreliable in any given month.

As a supplement, economists track the number of Americans applying for jobless benefits for the first time as a gauge of the labor market. If this number falls, it’s a good sign that the labor market is getting healthier. Last week, the Labor Department announced that this number dipped to 304,000, its lowest level since May 2007. The four-week average also fell to 316,250, below economists’ expectations, and to a level that is consistent with previous economic expansions.

Initial claims Obamacare

As you can see, despite the noise in the monthly jobs numbers, jobless claims have been falling for years now, even without the very encouraging reading of just 304,000 last week.

It’s easy to make fun of economists and their predictions. After all, anybody predicting the future is going to be wrong more often than they are right. But at least at this point, it looks like blaming poor economic data on unseasonably cold weather may have been correct.

This remains to be seen, of course, and a lot could still change. Consumer confidence continues to be the key. As always, all we can do is wait for the next curves in the road. For now at least, it does not look like the economy is slipping back into a recession.

GDP Obamacare

Consumer confidence, as measured by the UMich Consumer Sentiment Index, has risen sharply since the low in late 2012, which was roughly equal to the low in 2008 during the Great Recession. But it is also bumping up against a lot of overhead resistance from a technical perspective.

Since consumer spending accounts for apprx. 70% of GDP, it will be very important to see what happens next. There is so much uncertainty in the world today it is simply impossible to know what lies ahead. It will be very interesting to see if consumer confidence breaks out to the next level on the upside, or if there are new setbacks to come.

The Real Obamacare Nightmare is Just Beginning

I have avoided writing much about Obamacare since the president was re-elected in late 2012. Since the disastrous rollout of the Affordable Care Act last October, the country has been fixated on whether enough Americans (and the right age mix) would enroll in Obamacare. Last Thursday, the Obama administration said that a total of eight million Americans had signed up.

In a hastily called press event, President Obama spiked the football, took a victory lap around the White House and declared the healthcare law a smashing success – although they still haven’t told us how many enrollees have actually paid a premium, or were simply replacing policies that were canceled.

In any event, the millions of Americans who have purchased health insurance on the government exchanges are in for another shock as they begin to try to actually use their new healthcare insurance. What follows is a very good explanation on this subject from FORBES’ writer Jeffrey Dorfman.


Get Ready For The Real Obamacare Disasters As People Start To Use It

We have finally (almost, sort of) reached the end of Obamacare signups. The White House is claiming over seven million people have signed up with several million more now on the Medicaid rolls. Democrats are desperate to find a success somewhere in the Obamacare narrative, so reaching seven million is the story of the moment. However, as bad as the open enrollment period and its infamous website was, the real problems are about to begin. Now people are going to try to use their new insurance.

The problems that will create the next headlines will come in three main flavors: lack of access to doctors, failures of the system to verify coverage and pay claims, and the incredibly high deductibles and copays on many of the exchange insurance policies. [Emphasis added, GDH]

Insurance companies believed that people shopping for health insurance on the government exchanges were very price sensitive so low prices were needed to attract buyers. Thus, the insurers only signed up doctors and hospitals willing to agree to low reimbursement rates to their exchange-offered plans. That means that many of the plans, especially the silver and bronze ones, come with much more limited networks than Americans are used to.

The newly insured are likely to find that, similar to Medicaid patients, it will be hard to find doctors who accept their new insurance. Having health insurance does not mean you can get care; you actually need a doctor for that, and a lot of people are in for a nasty surprise when they realize how limited their choices of providers are.

Similarly, it was hard for people on Medicaid to find providers who accepted Medicaid before. Now there are several million more people competing for space in the same number of doctors’ waiting rooms. Obviously, the problem of accessing care with your Medicaid coverage just got worse.

While the infamous website eventually worked well enough to get seven million people enrolled, the back end to the system apparently still is more fictitious than functioning. That means that insurance companies are not sure who they are supposedly covering. Figuring out who has or has not paid their first premium and therefore actually has insurance is complicated. Doctors’ offices are having a hard time determining which patients they can see and then get paid for. As these newly insured people try to use their health insurance we are already getting stories about nightmares attempting to verify coverage. Again, if the provider cannot verify your coverage, you are not really going to have access to care.

Finally, there is the enormous problem of deductibles and co-pays. Depending on the level of coverage selected and the amount of subsidy a family is receiving, the out-of-pocket expenses can vary significantly. Still, many people are going to find that they have a deductible as high as $6,000 [a year] and are expected to pay 40 percent of the cost of their treatment as a co-pay.

According to Scott Gottlieb, families qualifying for the largest subsidies face limits [deductibles] that can still be as high as $4,500 in total out-of-pocket spending for a family. If you did not previously have insurance because you could not afford it, why would policy makers think that you can now suddenly come up with several thousand dollars [each year] to cover such large deductibles and co-pays?

In reality, many people have surely signed up for coverage through the exchanges because they are receiving a subsidy and the monthly premium cost to them is a figure they can afford (thanks to taxpayers and young people for covering the rest of the true cost). When these people first use their new coverage and a health care provider explains they owe a deductible and co-pay there is going to be a sudden and steep learning curve. Many doctor offices request immediate payment of these monies and many newly insured patients are going to be unable to make such payments. If they could afford a $6,000 deductible and 40 percent co-pays, they would have already had insurance…

The reality is, if you bought insurance through a new health care exchange, providers will be limited, the administrative, back-end stuff will not work for a while, and people will not be able to pay their deductibles and co-pays. Thus, as Obamacare moves from sign ups to actual usage it will all start to fall apart. [Emphasis added, GDH)

Given the push for health care to be a right and to be more equally and universally provided, calls will arise to force providers into networks and for lower cost to patients. Now that health care is a “right,” people will want it to be better, more available, and cheaper (to them).

Thus, expect calls to change the plans so that deductibles and co-pays must be lower. Failure of Obamacare will be seen not as a failure of government involvement in health care but as failure to go far enough. Single payer will return to the policy arena as the “obvious solution” to these problems.

That’s right; my prediction is that an epic government failure will spur calls for more government involvement to fix the problems caused by government involvement. The question is, with Republicans poised to add Senate control to their current House majority, will a Republican Congress and a Democrat, lame-duck president whose name is synonymous with the law in question agree on anything that fixes the problem?

Given Washington’s track record, I doubt it. Therefore, expect Obamacare nightmares to continue for a while. As far as problems with this law, we are still in the early days. END QUOTE

Some Parting Thoughts About Easter

A new Rasmussen poll taken on April 16-17 has some encouraging news for those of us who are religious. The survey of 1,000 randomly-selected Americans found that a majority (54%) planned to attend a church service to celebrate Easter, up from 47% last year. 70% said they would share a family meal to celebrate Easter.

Rasmussen found that 73% of Americans said their religious faith is at least “somewhat important” in their daily life, including almost half (49%) who said it’s “very important.”  The survey found that 70% of Americans believe Jesus is the Son of God, and 69% believe He rose from the dead on Easter Sunday over 2000 years ago. I don’t know about you, but those numbers are very encouraging to me!

I hope you all had a joyous Easter weekend. We certainly did. The kids were both home from college and brought a few friends along for some fun on beautiful Lake Travis where we live. That kept me busy grilling and smoking various meats and cooking most of the weekend, but it was all well worth it. Easter and Christmas are my two favorite holidays!

Very best regards,

Gary D. Halbert

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508 Comments on "The Real Obamacare Nightmare is Just Beginning"

  1. wow it appears none of what you said came true, i guess that makes you a fugging nutcase, huh or a fuggign idiot

  2. Kevin Wiederhold | Sep 23, 2014, 12:41 am at 12:41 am |

    You are a seriously diseased schized, pile of worthless pathetic sh_t. You are a pathetic Government TARDCARE employee and such a seriously schized in the _____head, mental defect on a TARDCARE Gov welfare check, lol Go back to mommy you ___cowardly insane senseless pile of pathetic evil sh_t, lol. You Gov ga_ punks are just as worthless and evil sh_t as ever arn’t you punks fagg_ts, lol Anyone with even a half a brain here can see you are a twisted , brain dead, Gov TARDCARE, lazy, worthless, seriously schized, gay bit_h, lol. Is your Gov shrink screwintg you in the as_? lol F___insane sick fa_gs ALL OF YOU!! I am not a worthless coward like you I show my name PUNK!! lol Stupid Obamatardcare bit_h, lol

  3. NotImpressedbyTripe | Jun 23, 2014, 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm |

    I don’t think your brain is functioning at all. Any casual observer is qualified to see that.

    All those people whose coverage was dropped and who were then forced to buy new insurance (I was one of them, btw) were counted as part of Obamacare’s 8 million new signups. That’s right, well over half that that 8 million signup figure were actually people who already had perfectly good and affordable insurance until Obamacare cancelled it. Now if you understood basic grade school math, you’d grasp in the blink of an eye that Obama’s 8 million signups is a sham, bogus number because he wasn’t providing insurance to anywhere near 8 million previously uninsured people.

    That’s just one small example of your endless and infinite idiocy. Who has time to deal of the rest of it? You’re too proud of your own dishonest stupidity to ever get beyond it.

  4. I don’t think you are qualified to diagnose how my brain is functioning.

    This “idiotic legislation” has also resulted in a lot of lower premiums for a lot of people. Also, what happened to all the “death panels?”

    And what happened to all of those people whose coverage was dropped and couldn’t get insurance? Well, they could get new insurance, because now you can’t be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions. Most of them only exsisted in Koch Brothers ads, anyway.

  5. Yeah…”That means that many of the plans, especially the silver and bronze ones, come with much more limited networks than Americans are used to. ” What those Americans are used to is no coverage, no network and using the ER to get treatment. Having options that are merely limited is an upgrade to their prior situation. but carry on keep posting nonsense and making stuff up, lots of people will believe you.

  6. Seems to “ring a bell” for you.

  7. Loser,
    I’m a retired physician, but that wouldn’t fit in with your Obamaworshipping, don’t want to know anything that your drug induced fog, could handle. That’s the trouble with the left, mommy keeps telling you what a good boy you are, even if you are 30 and still living at home. Ring a bell?

  8. Sounds like your boys are cut from the same cloth as their old man–they just couldn’t cut it in the workplace.

  9. Two of my boys are in that world, in SF and have been told by their boss exactly that. So blow it up your a–!

  10. Just because now people have subsidized healthcare doesn’t mean they are winners! Based upon my wife’s enrollment via the healthcare exchange (because her previous policy was cancelled) – she was eligible for tax credits. HOWEVER, AFTER tax credits – her new policy is almost $200 per month HIGHER than her previous policy (without tax credits). Obamacare is a disaster and will destroy business, healthcare, the economy and people.

  11. You need to be exterminated

  12. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 30, 2014, 11:07 am at 11:07 am |

    Go suck a pole, Ryan. You’re a paid hack. Get lost.

  13. The irony of course is that it has been proven that the Tea Party trains people to go onto websites and post anti-government messages. They’ll even have them down vote movies with liberal messages that they haven’t even seen. As someone who canvasses for candidates of my choosing, there is no equivalent training in the democratic party. They do old school, door to door campaigning. And we don’t get paid to canvass. 100% voluntary on the weekend. The right are the ones who think elections are all about drowning out your opponents with cash.

  14. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 30, 2014, 10:18 am at 10:18 am |

    Okay, Ryan, by your own repeated admission now, you are a paid shill for Obamacare. Every post you’ve made here is purely mercenary.

    So go lick a pole.

  15. Signed up a 62 year old that has worked every day of her life since 1970. Was laid off two months ago because she dared to take leave to care for her ill 99 year-old mother. This is your “bottom feeder”.

    The problem when you are an ignorant and mindless conservative is that you start to buy into your own imbecilic propaganda. That is the kind of people that Obamacare will overwhelmingly help. People who need short term assistance while they go through a difficult period. Not bottom feeders looking for a government handout like your racist pal Clive Bundy.

    And subsidies pay off for anyone making less than 200% of the poverty line (that’s less than $40,000 a year in income, which a large portion of the country earns). That is a far, far cry from your bottom feeder imaginarium. From $40,000 to $80,000, Obamacare will have no effect one way or the other, unless you are one of those bottom feeders who wants to not have insurance and let the taxpayer step in during an emergency. Those of us making over $80,000 will pay more. I’ll happily do that knowing that the people I grew up with have a net during hard times.

  16. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 29, 2014, 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm |

    Slither away, reptile. I’m not here to meet your needs.

  17. So you can’t. Thank you for your time.

  18. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 29, 2014, 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm |

    I know you’ve heard this dozens of times before, but you’re not just dishonest, neurotic, and bizarrely needy, you’re creepier than a lizard as well.

  19. So reality will soon overwhelm my “deserving or inviting derision or mockery” “fallacious argument designed to deceive”. Neat, could you point out the fallacies or my attempts at deception? We do have proof you can use a thesaurus now lets check your critical reading skills and actually see if you can identify those problems you indicate. I have shown you how your own arguments are rife with fallacies, please share with me the flaws in my arguments. Please I am asking for your help so that I am making an informed decision, I want you to change my mind.

  20. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 29, 2014, 5:02 am at 5:02 am |

    The only way to get more coverage with “lower premiums” is to be heavily subsidized. The only way to be heavily subsidized is to make virtually no money, to have virtually no income, to have a job that requires virtually no education or skills.
    Now, if you are saying that’s average for your family, I wouldn’t be at all surprised. To keep their subsidies, they’re never going to able to rise significantly above their current economic status. And likewise I’m sure it presents no challenge to your family to remain exactly where they are, or less, economically. So there is no doubt you think Obamacare is a good thing. Because it allows your family to leach off of middle-class taxpayers who make too much money to be subsidized. It is those middle class taxpayers, not the bottom feeders in your family, who are getting hurt by this. And you are beyond a fool to ignore them and the financial harm that is being done to them. Those are the people who have to pay $6,000 plus per year in premiums for policies with $6,000 deductibles, in addition to having to pay the subsidies for the drones in your family. And those are the people who are more likely to actually vote this coming November than the bloodsucking leeches in your family.

    Eight million enrollees is bs if half or more of those had insurance previously that was cancelled. It’s a shell game, a con game, a total scam. So it doesn’t surprise me at all that a POS like you thinks it great. But it is still nothing but a scam and you are still nothing but a scamming POS.

  21. Only point that matters. Overall coverage has increased. Overall costs after subsidy have decreased. The average American is the winner. Your anecdote means nothing. I’ve personally signed up three family members to plans with more coverage and lower premiums. That’s also a fact. And the available data supports my anecdotes more than yours. This article is conservative predictions of the future. Conservative predictions have not had a great track record recently. Runaway inflation? Sorry no. Romney landslide? Oops. Obamacare falls short? 8 million enrollees. We’ll see if they magically get this one right.

  22. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 28, 2014, 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm |

    I don’t have to do a damn thing. Reality itself will soon inundate your ridiculous sophistry.

  23. So you admit that your evidence is flawed and your argument basically devolves into throwing insults to hide the fact that your opinion is not based on sound reasoning and judgment. Neat. If you are going to defend your argument based wholly on anecdotal evidence you either need to accept others anecdotal evidence or admit that you are tunnel visioned by bias. Its okay.

  24. Still nothing to back your”facts” up with….as far as “copying you, I’m sure that the word “troll” is unique and very rarely used On. message boards…with you having such short term memory…could be from exposure to radon gas…you stated you would “kick my ass”…….the first punch is yours weenie boy….come get it… a high profile Exec., I’m sure you can use some of you frequent flier miles to come “kick my ass”. Plus, one more geography lesson for you, Ohio was not part of the Confederacy…in fact Republican lawmakers had a big hand in freeing those slaves and giving them voting rights..but it is very telling that you NO NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THE Tea Party is about, except what you hear from MSNBC or read on Huffington….Aggressive Moderate…don’t think so, sounds to me your more in line with Pathetic LIBERALS….admit it and accept it..your family will still love you….

  25. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 27, 2014, 8:56 am at 8:56 am |

    Where did I come up with doubled premiums and tripled deductibles, you ask?

    It was pretty simple, you moron. I went to the website and looked at the plans. It doesn’t take a genius to compare those rates and deductibles to what my own insurance has been through all of my working life. And I am far, far from being the only one who sees that.

    And no, I certainly don’t believe you actually care about anyone but yourself, because you are clearly not interested in the truth of anyone else’s experience. Here’s a clue: you aren’t going to able to disregard them, because their stories are genuine, this fiasco has caused them real problems and will continue to do so, and the worst is indeed yet to come.

    If ad hominem attacks bother you, tough cookies. I don’t give a rat’s rectum whether you are Travis or not. You leftists are virtually interchangeable. You’re a smugly lying idiot and it is a pleasure to say so. Whether you want to hear it or not is none of my concern.

  26. Wow what a series of logical fallacies, In your first post you used a no true scotsman tactic, its California aka not “real” America. Second off I am not Travis, I did not discuss my experiences with the ACA. Then you have an appeal to emotion, think of the poor people who have doubled premiums and tripled deductibles. What study indicates that? Or are you just pulling it out of your ass? Then you insinuate that I don’t care about other people and am selfish to an almost psychotic extreme. Ad Hominem anyone?

    If you are trying to educate or inform you are doing a lousy job.

  27. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 27, 2014, 6:45 am at 6:45 am |

    Well, my own insurance was cancelled out of the blue due to Obamacare and for no other reason. Going back all the way to the 1970’s, this is the only time such a thing has ever happened to me personally. And the rate that I have to pay for my new policy is more than double, instantly.

    And that’s a fact, Jack.

    And I am just one of millions of people who could tell you the same thing.

    But of course it would be a wasted effort because you are too full of hippo dung to acknowledge the truth over your own twisted, ridiculous propaganda.

    So I’m not bothering with you any further, you’re just another sociopathic liberal dung machine.

    This article is dead on the money: the worst of Obamacare is still yet to come. All the denial you can muster is not going to change that. All the historical revisionism and disingenuous reframing you can muster is not going to change that. All the cynical, mendacious little dingleberries you can deposit on these discussion boards is not going to change that. All the subsidies that you can pass out that will be paid for by working taxpayers who will simultaneous have to deal with real, actual, unsubsidized premiums and doubled and tripled deductibles on their own new plans…is not going to change that. You are whistling in the dark. And every liberal congressman running for re-election this year knows it. Obama himself knows it, and he has been backpedaling like a crazy man to push the worst and most damaging effects of his economically destructive brainchild out past the November elections. If the Unaffordable Uncaring Act was really good stuff for most working, tax-paying, real world Americans, he wouldn’t be doing that. Even your president doesn’t want to eat his own cooking.

    So you are obviously just a tool and a stooge wetting your pants because you know this train is coming off the rails regardless of all your cynical cheerleading.

    This article IS the larger picture, not your moronic attempts to mask the real costs of Obamacare premiums and deductibles behind subsidies that are simply paid for out of other, more economic productive people’s taxes.

    Liberal grease stains: they’re everywhere. And you are a particularly rancid one.

  28. Jumping from one bogus and disproven claim to another must be taught at Tea Party conferences or something. Insurance companies were offering plans and later canceling them all the time. Since the know-nothing party never bothered paying attention to pre-Obamacare insurance world(and to be fair you guys get your news from a completely pretend news network) suddenly it seems like insurance companies are canceling policies out of the blue. This has been happening for decades. And the vast majority of those canceled policies were replaced with cheaper policies that offered more services. Rather than buying into claims that millions lost their insurance due to Obamacare, how about looking at the larger picture to see if that bears fruits rather than believing that a long standing policy that began in the 1970s suddenly became Obama’s fault? So what of the larger picture, since the exchanges opened, health insurance coverage has increased across a broad demographic and the medium rates actually paid by real people has dropped due to subsidies.

    My favorite part of your moronic reply was the priceless “men don’t need mammograms”. Apparently you think insurance companies have male coverage and female coverage. Not the way it works. You’d know that if you had any knowledge of the world outside of fake news land. Men and women purchase the same policies. Please get a clue before making idiotic claims like that.

  29. Another lefty loon, with his head buried so far up that all he can see is the backside of his tonsils.

  30. Link to a credible source please.

  31. True White Republican | Apr 26, 2014, 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm |

    You’d look great swinging from a rope in a tree by your neck.

  32. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm |

    Multiple personality disorder, paranoia, delusions of grandeur, megalomania, anger and hostility issues, violent behavior, making childish threats to complete strangers….yep, I repeat: you most certainly have seen more than your share of psychiatrists in your lifetime.

    And none of it did a bit of good for you, did it? You’re still just as emotionally stunted and socially dysfunctional as ever, aren’t you?

  33. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm |

    You are either being deliberately dishonest or you really are as ignorant as you sound. In fact both are probably true, as is the case with virtually all liberals.

    Insurance companies were perfectly happy to offer those cancelled plans and by and large the consumers who bought those plans were happy with them as well, because they weren’t forced to pay for coverage that did not apply to them and their individual circumstances. It was Obama’s Unaffordable Care Act that dictated to insurance companies they could no longer offer health insurance to males of any age that did not include such idiocies as mammograms and birth control.

    So despite your idiotic bleating to the contrary, it was Obama and his pole sucking minions who determined what the standards of basic coverage should be, and de facto dictated that insurance companies could no longer offer them. If you don’t understand that, then how do you explain away the remarkable coincidence that those “substandard” plans started getting cancelled only after ObamaCare took effect? Then and only then, by the millions?

    As I said, you are either too stupid or too deliberately dishonest for words if you can’t understand or acknowledge the simple cause and effect relationship of Washington outlawing these plans, and insurance companies discontinuing them as a result.

    But again, your level of ignorance and your level of dishonesty are not mutually exclusive. That’s just part of being a liberal.

  34. Kevin Wiederhold | Apr 26, 2014, 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm |

    Quite obviously you are a extremely unintelligent idiot who does not know your smelly as_ from your head. Want to kick my as_ scum?

  35. Kevin Wiederhold | Apr 26, 2014, 4:32 pm at 4:32 pm |

    Quite obviously are a extremely unintelligent idiot that doesn’t know your smelly as_ from you head. Want do kick my as_ punk?.

  36. You are correct pysco. Not all the south is red. In fact, the descendants of those slaves are overwhelmingly Democrat. I stand corrected.

  37. More conspiracy theories from the lunatic fringe. Fudging numbers that can easily be checked is pretty moronic. Not like Roger Ailes is running the Obama White House. Private insurance companies determined that policies did not meet the standards of basic coverage. You know, the same private insurance companies who the right has been touting as the perfect market solution for decades despite the highest costs in the world, the worst coverage rates, and mediocre healthcare results. The government did not evaluate those plans and decide that they needed to be canceled. Insurance companies did. Might I suggest getting your news from better sources if you think Harry Reid is canceling insurance policies. Or just join one of those Nevada militias if you are that dam paranoid.

  38. Libya is definitely one of the actions of the president that I disagree with him on. Not to mitigate, but launching airstrikes is not exactly the same thing as long drawn out wars with ground troops. There is no question that Iraq and Afghanistan are wars in the most traditional sense of the word. Libya can be called a war or just a military exercise. Either way, Obama was wrong to not get Congressional approval, but not even close to what happened in Iraq. We will pay for Iraq both in terms of money and lives for decades to come.
    And Congress can sue the president for any reason they want. It is political grandstanding. They also tried repealing 50 times. Please name another act of law that was put on the floor for repeal 50 times. Congress is out of control. The president executes the law and it definitely falls in his powers of execution to delay implementation of the law if he feels the structure is not in place. This happens all the time. If a hospital is approved to open by the local government, if the structure for the hospital is not in place, you actually believe the mayor is legally obligated to open that hospital before it is ready. I can assure, working this space, that this happens all the time. Projects always get delayed without restructuring the law or independent contracts. If the Supreme Court rules otherwise, every business in America is in serious trouble.

  39. You can’t afford health insurance so you want someone else to pay for it? You can’t afford your medical bills, so you want someone else to pay them?

  40. Ryan I would expect a man of intelligence to recognize Truth from propaganda, not just the hyperbole from NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NY Times, or BLoomberg feeds them, You said all the southern are red, please back and check. And, Ryan, I’m not a republican, a conservative yes, personally I think a lot Republicans are not much different than Democrats IE. McConnell, McCain, Boehner, Jeb Bush, etc

  41. Also Jenky, I’m not going send you links to facts that you don’t accept. Waste of time. You think your opinions are facts.

    I have a family, too. And I’m an exec. I’m not coming to Kent. But I invite you to come to West Los Angeles. At least two gyms here have boxing rings. We can settle things at one of them. Even Bob Dylan’s 18th Street Cafe has a boxing ring.

    ‘Troll’ is your label. You copied that, too… A true liberal would not engage you as long as I have. I’m an aggressive moderate who can’t stand Confederates. So get on a plane and come here. Just ask, andI’ll provide addresses of the gyms. Otherwise, shut up!

  42. Go on line and see the whole interview, he didn’t conduct two interviews, NY times altered the interview. Alan Keyes (Black) said Bundy was telling the truth, and that Bundy’s observations were not racist and in Keyes opinion were accurate.

  43. This law stinks and serves the govt. Older people will be denied treatment and medicines, transplants won’t be approved and medicine in gen. will cost more. No matter where, this law fails to grasp the concept of individual needs and desires vs mandates. It’s corruption at the highest level and don’t expect changes until 2016. Or, if morons elect another loser to either party, the American dream and Liberty will be destroyed and replaced with Tyranny.

  44. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |

    I’m guessing you know the names of lots of pyschiatrists.

  45. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |

    No, I don’t think you have comprehended at all because his points are dead on the money.

    This is a strange and foreign concept to you, I realize, but….they wouldn’t have to click on anything at all if they had simply been allowed to keep their existing plan, rather than having it unceremoniously canceled out from underneath them. Their primary care-provider was obviously present on their existing plan. I mean, you *can* follow that logic, can’t you?

    So doesn’t this whole dog and pony charade underline the simple fact that they ALREADY had insurance, and this 7-8 million number is simply a disingenuous shell game because it includes millions that were already insured who were essentially forced back into the market because Obama, Reid, and Pelosi took away what they already had? While meanwhile most of those previous 10’s of millions of uninsured are still just sitting on the sidelines uninsured and untouched by Obama’s magic wand?

  46. Ryan, I don’t get it. Are you defending your points? Obama went to war without ANY consultation of Congress. Are you like so many liberals that think two wrongs make a right? I see your point, but your are forgetting the War Powers Resolution. It is often conveniently used and I agree with you, the words Declaration of War should be the only language acceptable, but that is not how its been done since WWII. And on the second point, Obama is being sued by Congress for the very point you are making. Tell me (and you cant use the infrastructure BS argument) why would he conveniently postpone the employer mandate till just past the presidential election of 2016?

  47. On the second point, there is no question. The president’s job is to execute the law. Delaying a law is within his powers of execution.

  48. Worked well in Massachusetts for years!!! : )

  49. Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution says “The Congress shall have the power… to declare war.” For conservatives who like to call themselves strict interpretationists of the constitution, somehow one of the most important things government can do is wide open for interpretation.

  50. Sure Jenky, you are are one ugly,ignorant troll. Convictions? I believe in science, the military, the New Deal, Social Security. So you like Cliven. Dude, you’re certifiable. End of conversation, sweetie.

  51. I comprehended well enough. His points were simply off-base and lacking accuracy. Again, people are going to find out that their provider isn’t covered? Let’s see, there is a icon to see if providers are part of the plan. Should I click before I join this plan? Nah, I’m sure he’ll/she’ll be there. Does that really sound like the behavior of most consumers?

  52. More racist trolling from the conservative base. He is black. Look at him. By black, of course you mean poor and powerless. If you say Obama is not black, you are saying that you associate blackness with personal characteristics rather than racial background. That’s the problem with conservatives and why they see blacks as the enemy.

  53. Wrong on both counts Ryan.

  54. Conservatives really struggle to understand basic points. The general public did not set up the exchanges. The federal government did. They ultimately worked exceedingly well. But the federal government was not involved in the “employer mandate”. Hint: the employer is a private entity. The fact that the GOP told them the law would never stand up in court is probably why most of them never fully prepared. Next year, businesses better be ready to go.

  55. Nothing to do with skin color? “Better off as slaves”. Not even the craziest of the crazy conservative politicians are standing behind this idiot anymore. They know how racist and crazy he sounds. Why are the base standing behind him? Oh right, because that is what everyone in the party actually believes. Every once in a while, conservatives tell the country what they actually think (47%). The country does not like it usually and they immediately backtrack, except the base.

  56. The execution of law is the job of the president, not Congress. With all due respect, please read the Constitution. It’s pretty short and an interesting read.

  57. Southerners started the KKK. Almost all today identify as Republicans. And the South is now overwhelmingly Republican. Everything Republicans stood for in the 1800’s would make them RINO’s in today’s party. Infrastructure. Taxes. Tariffs. Which 21st century party does that sound like?

  58. The constitution does not say Congress shall authorize “use of force”. It specifically says that declaration of war must be done by Congress. It is illegal to not enforce laws, not to delay them.

  59. Try actually reading what I wrote. Many of the companies that had the mandate were not prepared to enact the law. This was a business friendly decision by the administration. You know, the so-called “Job Creators”.

  60. The companies were not ready. They didn’t have the infrastructure in place to immediately provide coverage to 10s of millions of employees. Again, there is an off-year election. 50% of years are election years.

  61. There may be more winners than losers. I’m willing to bet that the percentage of people who get health care for free or are heavily subsidized is a lot higher than we realize.

    The middle class loses, but a lot of them don’t realize it yet, so many of them are counting themselves as winners until they try to use their health insurance and find out it’s useless.

    Some might be so oblivious that they will never see that they are better off paying cash and not being insured.

    However, you are right, no one is writing that story yet.

  62. oh, get a life you little liberal weenie…I read your little comment filled with “facts”…it was just as pathetic as you are….you call me a coward, but a true coward is a liberal like you, that doesn’t have the testicles to state your convictions, positions, or ideology…you state you come from a military family…so do I numb nuts..but did YOU serve?? All you do is cruise the message boards criticizing people, yet you don’t have the backbone to state where YOU stand…typical of a liberal…no I take that back…worse than liberals….you are real quick calling other people liars, but you back nothing you say with any evidence…sorry troll, I have a family to think about and provide for…I have no desire to give some weenie from California any personal information…you know enough already…Kent, Ohio is a small town…you want a piece of me….come get it troll….

  63. Can you show WHERE it was debunked? That he actually didn’t say Blacks were better off as slaves?

  64. Jenky, you are a Tea Party troll. A real trash mouth…

  65. You’re a business owner and don’t understand percentages….no wonder that business you own will stay the same size as your brain…..small. As a percentage of the welfare pie….minorities devour the majority of that pie….care to discuss the race of who pays the most taxes that supports the welfare programs…those people aren’t black…Or brown…or red….or yellow…..

  66. Most people against the mandate, and everyone else, SHOULD be complaining about it being postponed. Those people are still against the mandate, but for me, I’m even more concerned that the so-called president broke the law, twice, by postponing it. He doesn’t have ANY authority to do that. He’s not allowed to change the rules, after they are implemented, without congressional approval.

  67. Kevin Wiederhold | Apr 26, 2014, 9:38 am at 9:38 am |

    Name just one Psychiatrist who opposes Obamacare. Why, do I ask this perfect question to expose this whole fake article? Maybe you should ask yourself the question ‘Why was JFK assassinated’ ? Why are the scum racketeering Lawyer Bars destroying the whole nation?

  68. I love how the writer throws in some sugar coating stories (not that they are sugar, more like sugar substitute) in the middle of the story to take your mind off the real problem for a minute. Regardless of what these Dolts say, 1.1% spending growth in the Springtime of a so-called recovery is not tantamount to “good news”. Our economy sucks, our healthcare sucks, our President sucks, our jobs situation sucks and I don’t give a rats axx how much sugar you pour over it, OBAMA AND HIS COMMUNIST ADMINISTRATION SUCKS!

  69. land he doesn’t own- Therein lies the problem, 84% of the State isn’t his, or anyone’s, while the figure was some 65% some thirty years ago.
    When Reid had his ‘memo outed’, in it stated the rancher, Bundy, was the last ‘to go’. So while the ‘law’ can be said to be effective, the ‘land’ it affects is changing, to wit, it is pushing more individuals off usage of more lands all the time.
    Also what needs to be kept in mind, especially in this case, is the legal definition where when paying for something, one contractually knows what one is paying for, to say, by paying for a reduced amount of acreage, one is legally admitting to having only the rights to… that reduced amount of acreage. This may only be an after thought on Bundy’s part, but I am quite certain it was a consideration none the less.
    So where the ‘Law’ is set, it changes and resistance creates additional costs. If Bundy has 1 million in arrears, how much is in fines, interests ect.
    He may not have the law on his side, but it doesn’t appear this BLM is on anyone’s side except Reid’s (the original Solar facility that pushed this to the boiling point) and Tortoises (which the BLM is having euthanized. The program started with one million and the fund has grown to 50 million… sitting in a Bank. How nice for the BLM to have so much residual funds, from this program alone, garnishing interest, defended by Reid!)

  70. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 7:56 am at 7:56 am |

    I’m not defending the Unaffordable Care Act, you are.

    And so “why get so defensive about it now” is actually a good question…for you.

    If Obamacare is so great, you shouldn’t feel this painful, aching need to tell everyone else that their bad experiences with it are not real and it is only your own positive experience that is not a total fabrication. All you really have to do is just sit back and wait for it to bloom into golden cow patties for everyone everywhere…especially for those forced out of their old plans into the utopian world of doubled premiums and tripled deductibles.

    Surely once they see how good it is for you, they won’t mind a bit paying your subsidies in addition to their own higher premiums and deductibles.

    I know your golden-tongued eloquence has certainly persuaded me that as long as it’s good for you, no one else really matters.

  71. I mean if anecdotal evidence is fine in all these other cases, why get so defensive now? Also almost ever time someone comes forward with the full details of obamacare horrors they vent so loudly about they get debunked like so many of fox’s finds.

  72. How about the lies about fast and furious, the lie about Benghazi, and the lies about the IRS scandal or don’t those count either?

  73. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 7:00 am at 7:00 am |

    You are addressing an audience of feral parasites. As long as they get the golden egg, they could care less about the goose. In fact, they hate the goose and can’t wait to kill it fast enough…as long as it still leaves them golden eggs.

  74. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:55 am at 6:55 am |

    No Donald, ignorance is confined to liberals and morons named Donald.

  75. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:54 am at 6:54 am |

    Reading comprehension is a foreign concept to you, isn’t it?

    You missed his whole point.

  76. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:52 am at 6:52 am |

    I’m sure you know what caca is.

    Put the spoon down.

  77. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:49 am at 6:49 am |

    Good point. Hard to disagree with any of that.

  78. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:48 am at 6:48 am |


    There it is: racism, racism, racism.

    Everything is racism. Even milk is racist.

  79. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:46 am at 6:46 am |

    Never. You don’t seriously expect them to be truthful about it, do you?

  80. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:45 am at 6:45 am |

    I bet you’re just chockful of liberal strawman fantasies.

  81. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:43 am at 6:43 am |

    It’s California experience, you mean, and therefore by definition has nothing to do with the real world.

  82. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:41 am at 6:41 am |

    This horse isn’t dead. Unlike your brain cells…

  83. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:40 am at 6:40 am |

    Clearly if you are not happy with this fiasco, you are a racist.

  84. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:36 am at 6:36 am |

    You brain is functioning in a very dim and unilluminated closet if you don’t understand the simple economic impact on working families of higher premiums, higher copays, and much higher deductibles that have all directly resulted from this idiotic legislation.

    “This guy” is absolutely right. The cumulative, on-going effect of these three gouges on the American working public…the ones who actually pay for it all…has not even really begun to make its appearance yet, but it is coming and it will be inexorable, unless there are dramatic changes in the Unaffordable Care Act in the meantime.

  85. NotImpressedbyTripe | Apr 26, 2014, 6:21 am at 6:21 am |

    Obamacare mandated and enabled this, moron.

  86. ANOTHER talking point parrot.

  87. Uh…news flash: There are FEWER doctors now willing to accept Medicaid. My doctor stopped seeing Medicaid Patients on Jan 1st, as well as several of her colleagues, leaving my city with 7 fewer doctors (out of a possible total of just under 20 willing to see Medicaid patients) and now 37,000 new Medicaid recipients all vying for appointments at the remaining dozen or so doctors. I’ve been disabled for 10 years now, and I’m on a friggin’ waiting list over a year long just to get necessary prescriptions. My ER usage has gone up by 400% since January, and they can only write me 7 day prescriptions for meds I need for the rest of my life. I try those Urgent Care places that accept Medicaid, but they can only give me 2 week supplies. I guess Obama wants people like me to just die.

  88. Oh if only any of the 3 potential issues actually had anything to do with Obamacare, unfortunately they don’t. They all have to do with the still greedy insurance companies.

  89. LiberalBrainWashedBonehead | Apr 25, 2014, 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm |

    The Government has unlimited revenue to make it work so it will work and the demwits and liberal are sure of that.

  90. No one on the left, maybe. They don’t worry about the Obama administration lies and cover ups. As long as their checks keep arriving.

  91. No one CARES about Benghazi. No one,

  92. Not a TEA Party guy, just someone who realizes that Obama and the left are hosing us on Democare. And, if you have ever read anything other than DNC talking points on the subject, you’d know that the majority of the nation is anti Democare and PRO getting the truth on Benghazi.

  93. We’ll start with lies, Carl. I will try to keep the list small, but there so many…

    #1 “I don’t want to pit Red America against Blue America. I want to be the president? of the United States of America.”

    #2 “We’ve got shovel-ready projects all across the country that governors and mayors are pleading to fund. And the minute we can get those investments to the state level, jobs are going to be created.”

    #3 “We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime.”

    #4 “We will close the detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, the location of so many of the worst constitutional abuses in recent years.”

    #5 “We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight years.”

    #6 “Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors — saving them an average of $1,400 a year– and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an
    income tax return at all.”

    #7 “Will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.”

    “We support constitutional protections and judicial oversight on any surveillance program involving Americans.”

    And the biggest lie of all:

    “I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear that I
    will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully, and will
    to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of
    the United States.”

    There are many more, (and I didn’t even bring up obamacare!) but I think you get the picture.

    Let’s see, cheating and conniving kind of go together when talking about Barry. He hasn’t provided a single VALID document to prove his eligibility to even hold the office of the Presidency. If one adheres to the 1875 Supreme Court decision in Hapersett v Minor, a Natural Born Citizen was defined as a person born on US soil of parents (PLURAL, meaning BOTH) who are US Citizens. Since obama’s father was clearly a Kenyan citizen (British at the time of his birth) then obama is not even eligible to run for the office much less be squatting in our White House. He is also clearly cheating the American public by keeping his past accomplishments (failures?) secret from us by refusing to release his school and college records. At last count I believe he has spent over a million dollars in legal fees to keep his records sealed from the public. No one spends that amount of money to keep something secret unless it would cause massive damage if released and we as Americans have a right (yes, I said RIGHT) to know what he is hiding from us. His conniving with eric holder to disregard any laws he disagrees with (Defense of Marriage Act, deportation of illegal aliens, federal drug laws and too many “Executive Orders” to count) is flat out illegal. By the way, Carl, “You can keep your plan” and “You can keep your Doctor” are still lies, told by obama, to the American people, period! Saying they “don’t count in this argument” doesn’t change that fact. The propensity of liberals to ignore obama’s lies and treat them as truths, won’t fly here. The bottom line is, obama is a DISASTER as president and is causing our nation irreparable harm. The only further information I would be interested in from you is confirmation that obama has resigned, or been removed from office. THAT I would like to hear!!!

  94. Obama is about as Black as Biden is. Wake up you Idiots look at him and tell me he is a Black American. B. S. He is about as black
    as your girl Hilary. the only color that means anything to him and
    his Cronies is GREEN

  95. No wonder your signed in as Guest no one with a lick of sense
    thinks this Guy in the white house is any different than the Bush’s
    or Clinton’s all of them have dealings together and are all on the same agenda. So wake up and look around you take a look at Detroit and think of a African Nation that is worse off than Detroit.
    As for your ” rational society ” It Sucks. So count Me out of your
    delusional view of what is far,far,far,better BS… Because you’re out of your mind !

  96. Tell me how your not dumber than a box of rocks!

  97. Daniel Johnston | Apr 25, 2014, 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm |

    No One really thinks this Nightmare is going to get better. The only reason for Obama’s
    pep rally and phony celebration was The fact that this awful mess he and his cronies have made and layed on the U.S. taxpayer don’t have any effect on him or his Family
    or any of the others that have sold out the working class that they are supposed to be so fond of. Remember at election time the ones that sold all of us out and get some pay back.

  98. Obamacare is, of course, composed of private insurance companies simply put together on an exchange. Oh, yeah, and a few basic new rules, such as you can’t be turned down for previous-existing conditions. There is also the Medicaid expansion that many states implemented and many did not. Why is this guy getting so hyped up about it? It’s not even as big a change as single-payer – which Canada has had for decades.

  99. I’m just going to sit the whole thing out for two years and wait for Medicare. I’ve been uninsured and healthy for a decade and with a $6696 annual premium and $6325 deductible, the roughly $700 tax penalty seems to be a bargain.

  100. I don’t think there is anything “ominous” about the premium payment. It’s simply that you don’t actually have insurance until after you do pay. Sign ups are nice, but payment is all that counts, and that is how it’s always operated.

    Obama…….in Columbia Law
    …Why did Obama’s photo I.D. during his enrollment in Columbia
    listed as “ Barry Soetoro..I. D.
    #6009962011054355, AA81, ***FOREIGN STUDENT***
    Obamacare isn’t
    about health care. It’s about bankrupting the middle class and addicting it to
    government dependency. It’s about redistributing wealth from the middle class
    and small business to Obama’s voters (the poor and unions). Its goal is to wipe
    out the last vestiges of middle class America, creating a
    two-class society: the super rich and the poor (both beholden to Obama). Obama
    learned well, it’s working to perfection. It’s always about lying to
    cover-up the Marxist agenda of destroying the middle class, redistributing
    wealth, and putting big government in control of our every move. Why the lies?
    We were taught at Columbia that “It’s for
    the greater good” and “We know what’s best for those people” and ”The ends
    justify the means.” Obama learned very well.

    But the key to
    it all is to “boil the frog slowly.” We
    learned at Columbia to set the
    fire low, so the frog wouldn’t complain. By the time he realized what was
    happening, he’d be cooked.

  102. This rather angry statement by blaming every thing on the liberal pretty much shows your ignorance of american history and the introduction of bills that include the entire population. Social Security is one of the best, as when it started none of the southern states joined, women weren’t covered, nor were people who worked for tips such as waiters, bartenders, etc. Nor did you have to join. By the 70s you had to make a choice of staying with Social Security, or taking your money and investing it yourself. Without going over each one let’s talk about the prescription drug plan which took more than a year to straighten out.

    So no matter how many difficulties the program has to this point, there will be many more adjustments in the years ahead before this is finally done.

    Rather than screaming and hollering and blaming every thing on “liberals” which I assume is everyone who doesn’t agree with you, why not start discussing ways to improve the bill to make sure every American has adequate health care.

    Our previous health care system, claimed by many to be the “best in the world,” ranked 42nd in life expectancy, 17th in the mortality rate of babies from birth to one-year-old and twice as expensive per person than the second most expensive health care system. And in 2008 one seventy thousand people were dying in our nation’s hospitals from infections they didn’t have when they entered, and 20,000+ citizens dying each year from a lack of medical care. Doesn’t sound like that’s something which makes you have the “best medical care in the world.”

  103. where do you get all your factual material? I’m sure you have many examples of the lies he’s told, where he has cheated and define “connived” to show an example of how he became the president. And the “lies” about keeping your health care, and seeing and keeping your doctor”, don’t count in this argument, because both go deeper than those two simplistic instances, which I would help you understand if you wanted any further information

  104. Another “if I don’t like the law, it’s bad.” The BLM goes back to 1934 and the Taylor Act which was passed and became law. It’s purpose was to save the land from “over grazing” which was happening, and the bill had input from all the states, and a large committee of ranchers from the state being effected..

    No matter what you think of Mr. Bundy’s behavior, and no mater your political leanings the man lost two cases in courts, and refused to pay his bills. Does he have the right to protest by breaking the law? He sure does, but he must also understand he will have to accept his actions in breaking the law when the final decisions are made. There is no free ride,
    and there is no free grazing on land he doesn’t own..

  105. and you say the general public was ready for this crap. libbies amaze me. and Ryan, good luck voting for hilliarbeast. she needs you

  106. YourMotherIsACheesecunt | Apr 25, 2014, 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm |

    When you go to a dinner party and there is a turd in the punchbowl – you don’t tell the host it’s a lovely party – you scream and wave your arms and bellow there’sabigbrownstyshit in the punch bowl. That’s what jason was doing – because to even entertain the question fo whether blacks would be better off as slaves is completely ignorant and a clear sign of a mental impairment.

  107. YourMotherIsACheesecunt | Apr 25, 2014, 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm |

    How so… even if he had his way – then that would mean he was stealing fro his state and not the Feds…

  108. Jenky (still a coward hiding behind a screen name) You’ve been piling on the b.s. so high, I can’t respond to all of it right away. Sorry! I saw your copy job on my $800K condo. Also know $400k gets you a nice house in the midwest and mideast. The stock market? You know nothing. No comment. So you’re a ‘compassionate conservative’ and you call the PRESIDENT a Marxist. That’s Tea Party right wing. And stupid. John Boehner is even dissing the T’s and/or extreme GOP elements like you.

    My bubble? People in CA are ‘not known for level headed thinking’? I doubt you could recognize a level head… Nothing you’ve written here sounds level, so we know that’s not you. Brain dead in CA? No doubt there are kooky things that happen in CA, but the state has the 8th largest economy in the world. Google that fact, okay. Facts matter.

    CA has TOP 10 universities in Cal Tech (#10), Stanford (#5), UC Berkeley (#20). Also has my two schools USC and UCLA (tied for #23). There is no top 50 university or college in Ohio. But I dated a woman who was from Shaker Heights, outside of Cleveland. I like Ohio…

    Most people in the Northwest are not from CA. Got a reference for that assertion? CA were not liked largely for running up real estate prices.

    You seem to be quite a fact-less character. Believing things that are not true and not believing that are true (e.g. science) are signs of mental illness. And I could be accused of having a mild case of such for continuing to engage you. But I do like you as a character, replete with your odd views — perhaps not too far from those of Cliven the government-denying racist in Nevada. BTW, I like Jeb Bush. W got a lot of our soldiers killed. Cheney should be in prison for outing a CIA agent, among other offenses.

    It’s cool that you’ve stopped red-baiting me with the ‘liberal’ label. My cousin in El Paso, a US Navy Captain (Ret.) is getting a kick out of this exchange. And I’m still quite interested in you. I write. And you are a character! Over 65? If I gave you my email address, would you send pics of yourself, house, etc.?

  109. YourMotherIsACheesecunt | Apr 25, 2014, 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm |

    I keep hearing these morons talk about “they haven’t paid their premiums” as if that’s supposed to be some ominous thing. Uh… don’t you idiots know that premiums aren’t due the moment you sign up for insurance. never have before Obamacare law… why should that change now… They will pay their premiums at the same time as people have always paid their premiums when they newly signed up for a plan. Anyone who tries to dispute that has not had much experience with health care regardless of whatever bullshitnonsense they want to spout. The fact is – in 99% of this country throughout the time health insurance existed – this is the exact same way it always operated.

  110. William M Durham | Apr 25, 2014, 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm |

    Again, first on the site, regardless of the time of day or night the obama boy is there to call people names, insult them and generally make a swine of himself.Taking about someone needing a life, from you photos you have a strange one, a part clown and part twinkieboy. Continue on your merry way, you are becoming more relevant as the days go by.Enjoy your childish rants and raves, people know who, what, and where you are

  111. Yeah Marty…you caught me…but it took you 8 hours to figure out I used the same made up number as you….well done…the difference is, I can live in my 6 bedroom house…with the land…and my horse stalls….for what a 1 bedroom condo costs you in Cali forn….I……a……in fact, My wife and I bought our home for 425,000 dollars…….as far as the stock market, yeah, the old stock market is really whiz zing right along….until the Feds stop pumping money into it….as far as Obama being a socialist…don’t think so…..he was raised by a whole bunch of Marxists, that’s more in line with his ideology….redistribution of wealth… far as the little bubble I live in…hate to burst your bubble, but people from Californication are not known for their level headed clear thinking….most people in the Northwest are former California residents that f’ed up California and moved to screw up another state with their brain dead ideology….

  112. Noty a problem. I go to the doctor and tell them I am paying cash.. 25% off, right off the bat. And they tell me, or I ask for any additional fees.. Then we start to negotiate…

  113. You forgot “pathological liar”!

  114. Not to a liberal democrap. To them this is greatest thing since bread. And if it doesn’t work than the republicans are to blame NEVER EVER Obama their messiah!!

  115. @Ryan – Are you talking about Obama or Bush?

  116. harrison j. bounel | Apr 25, 2014, 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm |

    for me it already began. i lost my policy. period. i lost my doctor. period. my aca premium is double. my deductible is double. my work week is now 30 hours. is this what communism is all about?

  117. “obamacare!” It should be against the law to beat a dead horse. Move along, nothing to see here folks..move along.

  118. OK. I have a plan I purchased on the California ACA website. I kept my same doctors except for 1 (he got replaced as it turns out with a better one). The same hospital that my old plan had. Had a visit for annual exam, and had some skin cancer removed. No problem. The deductible is lower than my old plan. The office visits are lower. I have lower coinsurance if I have a big health issue. All this for a premium that was just a little more than my old policy. This is real world experience, not some make believe fear mongering.

  119. Ryan, this has nothing to do with the color of anyones skin.

  120. Don’t EVER reproduce

  121. What flavor is the Kool-aid these days, Tony?

  122. That’s true. It’s also why Jesus took that whipping for them (not to mention the Christians and Whites as well).


  124. True White Republican | Apr 25, 2014, 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm |

    Non-Whites and non-Christians don’t deserve anything but a good whipping then death.

  125. Guest, then what you want is a Constitutional Convention changing the very nature of our founding documents from a constitutionally limited representative democratic republic of a conglomeration of individual states and limited government where the government works for us, to a socialist republic that centralizes everything and we work for it. That’s not a country I would want to live in (although that is where we are headed very quickly). Again, from my point above, income inequality can be offset with the fair and flat taxation structures. Picking pockets of the wealthy is not going to accomplish what you want in the end anyway (EX. The last 100 years of wealth redistribution have certainly not worked).

  126. When will NBC and thelibtard newspapers stop trying to lie and cover up this oblammer-care disaster!!!!!????

  127. 100% agree guest.

  128. well if given the choice of a very select few having all the money and the rest are poor ala the worst president in history, the destroyer of jobs and home values, Mr GW Bush himself, or everyone having an equal amount, i think i like the equal amount option better. it may not be ideal, but its Far Far Far better than just the Bush family friends holding all the money and power while the rest of america goes poor and hungry. if you like that way, you should move to an African Nation. give it a try. then when you come back to reality you can join the rest of us as a rational society member. good luck

  129. as long as consumption includes companies and the products they consume to make other products. they better be taxed on the amount of water they use(consume) in making soda, beer, bottled water. they better be taxed on consumption of corn, wheat, grains, etc. as long as they are taxed on their consumptions of products too Dude.

  130. ….and the code that is written into the website stating you do not have any privacy. It’s just begging the hackers to hack in and steal identity, but I believe to the Obamabots its okay dokey!

  131. Hey idiot lib OBAMA IS NOT GOD! You adoration is sickening.

  132. Obama is a new word in the dictionary. Meaning failure incompetent and stupid

  133. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE OBAMACARE SNAKEOIL MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! Racism! Global Warming! War on Women! Christian Taliban! Minimum Wage! (uh, did I say Racism yet?)

  134. if this is success, I cant wait to see failure

  135. Jackie Griffith | Apr 25, 2014, 1:34 pm at 1:34 pm |

    Voter Fraud !!

  136. Democrats: The party of lowlifes, losers and liars that ignore all facts.

  137. Please keep these stories coming nothing makes me more happy to hear about all you Kool-Aid drinking dopes who voted for barry2xer. Either losing your health care, or having the premiums going through the roof. It truly makes my day. Like the vile and corrupt teachers union who sold their souls a long time ago to the Dumbocrat Party. Are now getting it stuck in their, your know what with Common core. And like you dopes who lost you health insurance and voted 2x for barry. You want guys like me to feel sorry for you, or join you in the fight and bail you out and save you from the Dumbocrats you so love. Sorry you’re on your own.

  138. It isn’t a nightmare to you until your company downsizes your job to less than 30 hours per week, drops your health insurance benefits, or lays you off. Or if you want to find a full time job somewhere. Or if you want to find a competent doctor who speaks English that is willing to accept Obamacare……….

    WELCOME TO OBAMA’S 21st Century Stalinist Communism….

  139. Pres Obama is a god to get any kind of legislation passed when the repooplinutsos wont concede that water is wet . . never has there been so many fugging idiots as the repooplinuts, fox news, limboob, hanish1t, and the rest of the loonies . . hopefully we can keep the white house for at least 16t-24 yrs and overturn almost every repooplinut law ever, along with stacking the court with 9 progressives

  140. No one can change the law, but congress. The law had specific dates set. Only congress can change the law and date.

  141. And I suppose that folks that did not have health care before just … died.

  142. Do not forget about the cancellation notices going out in about the October timeframe that will affect 40 million policies and about 80 to 90 million people.

  143. I wish we could make the media print the truth for a change. I just saw an article on Yahoo stating that there were more “winners” from Obamacare than “losers”. That is a blatant lie and the American public knows it. What happened to journalistic integrity? It is a shame that we are bankrupting our nation to provide health insurance for everybody, when having health insurance is basically worse than having no insurance.

  144. I once waited three months for an approval to go the the House Ear Clinic only to find when I went there that an appointment was $95 in cash and I could have walked in any day I wished. Have any issues with your hearing? Go there, don’t mess around, it’s too important.

    Even the great insurance I had last year stopped allowing me to see a dermatologist for a skin cancer check, my primary doctor had that responsibility. But he wasn’t as through as the dermatologist was.

    So now I will just go to the dermatologist and pay cash.

    Insurance IS the problem, not the solution.

  145. The price I got for an MRI is $440, with contrast added to your blood, $550, so we got he same price.

    Never again will I use my insurance (of any kind) without telling them I have no insurance and paying the bill in cash.

    Thanks for not calling me a liar. Now, we need to educate those who are happy to finally have health insurance to what it is that they have.

  146. All of our insurance is now catastrophic insurance plans. They are just pretending to be high quality health care.

  147. I looked for a reasonably priced insurance, and the closest I could find to affordable still had premiums of over $600 per month, and deductibles of $8,000 to $10,000 per year, so I would still pay out $15,000 to $17,000 per year before the insurance company pays even one red Cent!!! And that was just for my wife and I, not even for the kids!!!! Aren’t you glad that Obumer made it so affordable?

  148. Ryan, KKK member ? I’m not Democrat, if you care to peep it, the Democrats started the KKK… Now the New York Times story has been debunked twice, You my friend have been brainwashed by the liberals, a dupe, a dunce… try recognize propaganda.

  149. You picked the same $800K number for your house as I cited my condo being worth. A lie! And you are, of course, delusional about Obama. Got stocks? President Blackenstein has probably made you a lot of money in the market in the last few years. Obama a really bad socialist, huh? No liberal, even if I was one, could match you on lying and the alternate reality, or right wing bubble, you live in. You a ‘compassionate conservative’? Like Bush? I’m starting to like you! Stalls? You have horses? I ride — my ex Danish girlfriend was my coach…

  150. Guest, the only thing that is going to change this is to vote for true Constitution following, fiscal conservatives. Even then, it is going to take a long time to “right the ship”. The fastest route will be if Congress and the states have the huevos to repeal or alter Amendment 16 in favor of a flat or fair tax system. It will be nearly impossible while we are still in the business of taxing prosperity (wealth redistribution) instead of consumption.

  151. Charlene Melancon | Apr 25, 2014, 8:44 am at 8:44 am |

    There’s no accounting for hopeless fools who can’t and won’t accept the facts. Obama care is set up to fail in order to get to socialistic health care and income redistribution is the end result. Your leader admitted this during his campaign for president. This is the only truth he has ever uttered.

  152. Charlene Melancon | Apr 25, 2014, 8:32 am at 8:32 am |

    Those who can’t give a rebuttal to Obama care horror stories always resort to the bs name calling. There is no real or completely factual news on any station. Since I have a great health care plan which was one of the best perks of my job, O and the IRS henchmen are going to tax my great insurance 40 percent. That should eat up the rest of my retirement check. You must be deaf, dumb, and blind or just another faux president supporter.

  153. Really Ryan???? The Bush thing again?? Use of force WAS PASSED IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE. Much UNLIKE Obama starting the truly illegal war with Libya without congressional authorization. And it is ILLEGAL for Presidents to pick and choose what parts of a law can be enforced. If you can’t see that Obama knows that his party (yours too apparently) is utter toast if the employer mandate kicks in before the next two elections, ….well I wont start name calling.

  154. Of course the house thing would sound like a lie to a liberal weenie….but of course us racist, white trash, GOP members should believe everything out of your hypocritical liberal mouth…after all your savior child Barrack Hussein Oblammer is the CEO of liberal lies incorporated…..but as a compassionate conservative you are more than welcome to stay in my house….I won’t even make you clean out the stalls..and we haven’t opened the pool up for the summer yet..we had a brutal winter of global warming….

  155. Who started the name calling? I had to stoop low to your level, MORON! The more you post the more you prove what a MORON you are!

  156. Today number of jobless American’s has not changed! China is still raking billions of dollars from American consumers and Americans could hardly find jobs and are dependent on government subsidies and food stamps. Meanwhile Obama is hailing himself over Obamacare numbers for a job well done. Creepy and sadistic in a sense that life many Americans are still living in a nightmare and here is the very president congratulating himself over a small number to boost his own self-steam to shame!

  157. Obamacare is nothing but Obama’s #1 Socialist/Communist tool he is using to destroy the “Middle Class”. True Socialism/Communism countries/societies do not have a “Middle Class”. Obama is nothing but a traitorous Muslim who is destroying our country. I pray to God, that the Republicans impeach him after they win back the Senate during the mid-term elections.

  158. Where the graph from the “economic” genius pencil pushers and useless desk squatters that shows in the future the point where the Washington money mafia collapses under the weight of debt trying to be the controller, provider of things it never had business poking it’s nose in…

  159. Yeah, those fan-girl, diseased, mental-case liberals resorting to name-calling…

  160. shoot I will defend Ted Cruz he seems to be an alright guy. I had an issue I was concerned about and I emailed both my states senators about it, I received an automated reply that had absolutely nothing to do with the issue I wrote them about , so then I emailed Ted Cruz and got a personal reply from him stating that even though I was not from his state he felt it was his obligation as a senator to be accessible to all citizens of this country, and he told me his take on the issue explaining why things were the way they were and welcomed me to write back any time.
    sorry to tell you but I have to support a elected official that actually remembers he is there to serve us, as for the senators of my state I wrote them both another email explaining to them that I would never again vote for either of them and the reason why

  161. Still anonymous? COWARD!!

  162. Jenky, the house thing sounds like a lie. I did get that time zone thing wrong. It’s tiring arguing with you white trash GOP racists. Do you recall what news story generated these comments? Gotta go. But can I stay couple of days if I make the trip? My mother is dead.

  163. Folks this is just another smoke screen coming out of the Democrats to further their chances of reelection.DO NOT I say DO NOT fall for all the BS and desert them at the poles.

  164. Nighty, night Marty….hope I can fall asleep …..I might have nightmares of you “kicking my ass”…….you’re a moron….

  165. Oh, by the way Marty….I live in Kent, Ohio….the home of Kent State University…but I got my degree at Bowling Green State University in Construction Management….class of 84….we all can’t be “teachers”….

  166. Nice upper cut there chief….I’m just sitting here shaking in my socks…by the way…I’ll give you a free geography lesson idiot….Ohio is in the Eastern time zone….that radon gas in your housekeeper’s basement must be at high levels tonight…..

  167. well Marty….I live in a $800,000 house in Ohio….6 bedrooms….5 1/2 baths…..8 acres…plenty of room if you want to visit and give me that “sociology” lesson….you’re pathetic…by the way….your Mom deserves 25 bucks an hour…..

  168. That’s still anonymous, jenky boy. This ‘liberal’ can kick your ass. But i generally don’t do such things or teach for free. What college now? It’s 1:36 Central time. Obviously don’t need to get up the morning. No job, huh?

  169. Sure Marty…Kent, Ohio…come on over big guy…you’re a freaking liberal…and a prime example of an idiot….give me a “sociology” lesson…yeah Marty…that would be great..that way you can confirm your idiocy in person….

  170. Because of what you wrote, we really should not keep electing the same people all the time. I also believe there has to be some limit on how much the candidates can spend… No candidates should be allowed to buy the seat…

  171. jenk911, I live in an $800K condo in West LA. So you stop the mommy stuff. That where you are? Back home? Where do you live? And what’s your rate for housecleaning? Bet my housekeeper earns more than you at whatever you do. She’s very good @$20/hr. I’ll give you $10/hr. That good?

  172. jenk991 (another anonymous brave guy). Come from military family. Why am a liberal if I see you white undereducated delusional white trash dolts as vile? Kennedy’s famous quote was, [‘Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country’. I want you and your people out of America. Note, one difference between a liberal and a moderate is that the liberal talks and moderate acts. Wanna meet to discuss your views? As least, I an give you a sociology lesson. I taught it at the university level. Where’d you go to college? You sound high school.

  173. If the law is not ready then dont pass it. You must read the law before you pass it. Not like what Palosi said, we pass it then read it. You cant pass ANY laws just because. Once it passed, you cant keep changing it, postponing it. You cant pass the law only for certain group of people . You do know that the congress, Reid staff, the union , IRS, some companies are exempted from the law… the law is only for people who dont have connection…

  174. good for the 8 million stupid people who sign up with obama care now they going pay for it 50,000 dollars good for them

  175. Yeah Marty….be careful of that radon gas….I’m sure those gasses are at the danger levels in your bedroom…in your MOMMY’S basement…as far as a lot of money…..yeah, you could be right….Obama did raise the minimum wage again….make sure those toilets get cleaned Marty….

  176. Martin, the only thing moderate about you is your intelligence….that’s the problem with liberal idiots like you…you vote on your own self interests…you don’t give a raat’s rectum whether it will damage our country, all mental midgets like you care about is that you got YOURS….Latino right wingers may be ….”traitors” to their self interest, but I say they are patriots and love their country, compares to idiots like you….you are the traitor to people like John Kennedy….what was that famous quote from one of his inaugural speeches????

  177. Anyone who defends obama and his obamacare is definately a person who cant accept the truth, who cant think clearly..

  178. After hundreds of millions spent…it wasn’t “ready”… you idiot liberals spent another hundreds of millions to fix a problem…..then delayed implementation until AFTER ELECTIONS….face it…you elected an idiot TWICE that isn’t READY….to even wipe his behind…

  179. I have said it many times, the only group of people who like the obamacare are the people who get it free. The preconditioned may have insurance now, but I am very sure that will pay an arm and a leg for that insurance. Then the insurance will make sure that they will only cover certain things… Insurance is in it to make profit not to take care of you. Once the liberals understand that the faster we will stop this craziness…

  180. Oh here we go again…a liberal weenie with the “but Bush” answer to a comment about his little golden boy……seems to me that those two wars were APPROVED by the majorities in CONGRESS…those voting for the action included Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Pelosi, Franks, Dodd…need I go on you liberal idiot…look up all those liberal politicians all the way back when Clinton was President warning about the danger of Iraq and Hussein….look at the speech of Al Gore..yet you idiots continue to say idiot things like your post. Typical liberal history of true events…you sir are just a flaming liberal rectum hole….

  181. I am sure the law/enrollment success is not as good as the President thinks/wants nor is it as bad as others think. The key issue some fail to see is that we need real change. We need to have laws that make more of an impact. There needs to be a change in rates. Why should an 21 year old pay more so a 64 year old pays less. Why should those healthier not get a lower rate? Why do we even need to enroll people in Medicaid?

    I think we need to reform the reform and offer lower rates to those young people we need in the system. Plus Americans tend to react to their pocket book. I am a bigger guy and prior to this law paid 30% more for my insurance compared to a healthier person. I am fine with this and think that with some American’s this cost would influence them to get healthier. Even allowing for a wellness credit for people like me to get on programs to improve lifestyle/health is a good idea.

    Plus why do we need to have a separate system for Medicaid people? Why not just have insurance companies design Medicaid based plans and compete to get people to sign up. I know this concept is partially used here and TX and it is working to reduce costs. Putting an end to Medicare by doing the same thing could have a great cost saving impact too. Government systems have so much waste and fraud. This does not exist with private insurance companies. They take waste and fraud seriously.

    I do like the way subsidies are on a scaled bases of income. I think this is much better. i know people who don’t take raises or get extra work so they can keep their income level below the cutoff for the C.H.I.P.S. program. The raise or extra work income would be eaten up and more by the extra cost of insurance for the children.

  182. Wayne Fleetwood | Apr 25, 2014, 1:39 am at 1:39 am |

    liberal got no time for facts…..

  183. When Wesley Snipes didn’t pay his taxes, he went to jail. Refusing to pay taxes is a criminal offense.

  184. Seriously? Connie, you right wing white trash hoe. You have no facts, and even less knowledge. You refer to testicles and you say I’m name calling? More like fact calling. i’m no socialist. I make a lot of money, and totally like capitalism. But you right wingers are so dumb and nasty, y’all are a threat to national security. And our economic competitiveness. You don’t have the brains to clean my house. Radon gas? Where’d you get that from? You gassed yourself?

  185. this is bundys words, you can call it racist which its not because he is right

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do
    they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their
    young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And
    I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and
    having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under
    government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less

  186. No, you simply don’t like what they are saying. Just cause you don’t like the points people are making doesn’t mean it’s not a legitimate point.

  187. Not to mention, all blacks are living off the government? Except the one that is the president of the country, who they also hate. So if you are black and you don’t have a job, they hate you. If you are black and you have the most important job in the country, they hate you. Something tells me the job part is irrelevant and the black part is what is driving that hatred.

  188. Debt? Oh, you mean the fact that President Obama has REDUCED the deficit since he took office? That’s right, when Obama took office, he inherited a 1.2 TRILLION yearly deficit. And it is now about 650 billion. Still bad, but much better than the deficit left to him by W.

    Socialist? Do you know what that means? This is the most conservative health care reform plan out there. It was created by a right-wing organization (Heritage). It was implemented successfully by a Republican at the state level. And designed by the same people who designed that Romney plan in Massachusetts. So you keep calling it socialist. It simply shows your ignorance. But I suppose ignorance is a prerequisite to vote Republican these days.

  189. Don’t forget ‘Romney Tsunami!!!” That was sure based in reality.

  190. We’re all going to die? Are you a Palin?

  191. GW and your alzheimer god Reagan broke the federal debt. The debt under Obama has increased at a much slower rate than under either of those tools.

  192. He said blacks were better off as slaves. If that isn’t racist to you, you are a card carrying member of the Klan.

  193. None of this happened. Do you get your news straight from the Russian propaganda minister?

  194. Of a “Wealth Management” firm. Yeah, no agenda there.

    This has as much legitimacy as “Romey Tsunami!” and “Benghazi conspiracy!”

  195. There is always an election coming up. The employers said they weren’t ready and they were given an exemption. There is nothing illegal about a president delaying executing a law if the infrastructure is not ready. We had a president invade two countries without a declaration of war and you are calling delaying implementing a law illegal.

  196. Article was written by someone who clearly knows nothing about the exchanges. You can search the plan for your primary care doctor before you sign up. I helped three people sign up and each of them checked and found the doctor on the plan they wanted. The difficulty of getting insurers to pay reimbursements is new? Is that a poor attempt at humor?

  197. Haha! When will the Tea Party GOP finally give up? In 20 years, you’ll be calling it “ReaganCare” and be protesting in the street, “Keep your gubmint hands off my ReaganCare!” The real scandal involves Republican Governors who rejected Expanded Medicaid. They would have their own constituents die for an inane tea party purity test. It never even has to cost their budget or their state a penny, and they can cancel any time. Blithely murderous. Evil. So, whereas Democrats have worked hard to bring efficiency to the marketplace, Republicans would just as soon you die.

  198. I can’t tell if you’re actually a delusional nutter. Or someone making fun of a delusional nutter by pointing out all of the nonsensical ‘scandals’ right-wingers think they see all around.

    It’s impossible to tell anymore. Right-wing/conservative/tp/Republicans have become parodies of themselves.

  199. Democrats doing what they do best; burying America in debt and saddling taxpayers with socialist handouts they use to buy votes.

  200. Let’s dissect this absurd article for a second.

    1. The author claims “If you did not previously have insurance because you could not afford it, why would policy makers think that you can now suddenly come up with several thousand dollars [each year] to cover such large deductibles and co-pays?”

    Without realizing that in many cases insurance prior to Obamacare could reach 1200 per month or more. Far more than the 4500 deductible. Also, the author is assuming that each person will reach the max each year. If a person is reaching the max deductible, it means they are getting significant care and likely have some issue they desperately need addressed. In which case, having insurance, even with the high deductible is FAR SUPERIOR to not having insurance at all.

    2. The authors “nightmares” are pure speculation. Not a single bit of evidence to support his claims. And if you haven’t noticed, each and every time right-wing/conservative/tp/Republicans have showcased these “nightmares”, the example they put forth is debunked as being full of nonsense, misinformation or outright lies. The author claims that these nightmares are already being reported. Yet, I’m fairly sure each “report” is from a right-wing/conservative/tp/Republican who is either misinformed, ignorant or lying. Maybe not. Certainly there will be some cases of problems, issues, etc. Every major project has those. Apple has problems with rollouts on a regular basis. They fix them and move on. Do Republicans think Apple should close shop?

    I’ll stop here for now. I’m sure I’ll get truly thought-provoking comments from the likes of nutters such as don dunn (here is his last comment just filled with critical thinking and brilliance “No, the nightmare started when you idiot morons voted for Obama.)

  201. MP: My premiums almost doubled when my policy was cancelled by obummercare. From $187/month up to $357/month–please explain the liberal math where I am saving money. I smell an MSNBC sh*t story that has you brainwashed….you are a liberal troll that needs to crawl back in your hole.

  202. Martin, you left testicle of your mother’s genitals, You are a typical liberal MORON who resorts to name calling when you people disagree with you and your socialist agenda. Move out of your mommy’s basement, the radon gas is melting what little brain you have! Don’t get angry MORON because an adult was forced to communicate at your level of juvenile level!

  203. Keep registering you Obamadrone slaves, and then be sure to follow your “messiah” right off the proverbial fycking cliff….smh…

  204. The only thing the Obama administration has talked about is the numbered enrolled, but that does not pay the bills. Like I have said many of times, Obamacare is nothing more than a tax generating instrument, its raised taxes on those making over $250,000, there is a 3.5% tax on premiums with you enroll, a 25% tax on tanning salons, and everyone is paying .75% of the 1.5% that is taken out of your check each month that was meant for Medicare, now goes towards Obamacare. Now the fund really begins. With the delay in enrollment by 6 month, claims must be processed, doctors and hospitals reimbursed, and insurance premiums must be paid. Gas is going up, groceries are going up and with states and cities pass minimum wage increases, everything else will go up, do you really think that those who couldn’t afford healthcare in 2013 can really afford it in 2014.

  205. Its PYSCO not Pyscho, you have no idea what it stands for, just like your post you have jumped to inaccurate conclusion, Midget Mind….Some of the times article has already been debunked, How’s them apples ? fool.

  206. The nightmare BEGAN WHEN ALL THE DUMBO-CRATS VOTED OBAMA IN OFFICE! Now everybody is going to die whether they are under Obama-uncare or not.

  207. The ACAt is a net deficit reducer. Here is the CBO’s response from July 12,
    2012 on what the effect of repeal of the ACA would be on the budget.
    This is before the revised cost estimates, so it is now a $100 billion
    bigger deficit reducer.:

    “Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act”

    “Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year
    2013, CBO and JCT estimate that, on balance, the direct spending and
    revenue effects of enacting that legislation would cause a net increase
    in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2013–2022 period.
    Specifically, we estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by
    $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022,
    thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period.”
    “Deficits would be increased under H.R. 6079 because the net savings
    from eliminating the insurance coverage provisions would be more than
    offset by the combination of other spending increases and revenue
    reductions:” (google: CBO ACA Boehner)

  208. No, the nightmare started when you idiot morons voted for Obama.

  209. You can find a good estimate of net enrollment on the CBO website. “The Congressional Budget
    Office said Monday about 12 million net people had gained insurance
    coverage through programs established by the Affordable Care Act,
    including federal and state insurance marketplaces and Medicaid
    expansion. The expansion of Medicaid accounted for about 7 million of
    the gains. According to the CBO, the uninsured rate fell to 16 percent.

  210. As I understand he was in court many times over the issue and lost every time. How many trips to the court does he get?

  211. Oh I know can you believe they said
    the PATRIOT Bundy made racist statements, Oh, wait……….
    and that Michele Fiore give hefty heifer skanks a bad name.

  212. I find it extremely hard to trust any Politician. We vote them in on the belief and good faith that they will represent us the People. They get salary from our Tax dollars. In truth a vast majority of them are not representing us as they should and are only in office for personal gain. Many vote because they believe that they are obligated to and fear that they do not have a say if they do not vote. I do vote and I try to vote for the lesser of two evil and do as much research as I can on the candidates before I cast it. I would proudly vote for one who is running for office that has absolutely no ties to any political party! However, since it is almost impossible to do so for several reasons: first the cost of campaigning, second the two major parties will do everything they can including lying the truth to you about the other, and third being able to participate in the debates. The system is fixed and it has been for many years. Most these politicians do not listen to the general public. When you here one speaking about its constituents they are referring to the lobbyist of the corporations and banks that sent them. So for me it doesn’t matter who is in office, and if they are Republican or Democrat. Who ever the ones with trillions upon trillions of dollars at hand to throw around want done and put into law, the puppets on the end of the strings do accordingly.

  213. Check it out: According to Gallup, not only are Canadians more satisfied with the availability of affordable health care, they are more satisfied with the quality of that care.

  214. OOOOooooo someone seriously needs a life,

  215. I bless every day the Romney’s are not in the White House AND your
    dead party has NO ONE viable for 2016.

  216. Check it out: According to Gallup, not only are Canadians more satisfied with the availability of affordable health care,they are more satisfied with the quality of that care.

  217. And only Tea Party dolts like you, even care,

  218. I find it extremely hard to trust any Politician. We vote them in on the belief and good faith that they will represent us the People. They get salary from our Tax dollars. In truth a vast majority of them are not representing us as they should and are only in office for personal gain. Many vote because they believe that they are obligated to and fear that they do not have a say if they do not vote. I do vote and I try to vote for the lesser of two evil and do as much research as I can on the candidates before I cast it. I would proudly vote for one who is running for office that has absolutely no ties to any political party! However, since it is almost impossible to do so for several reasons: first the cost of campaigning, second the two major parties will do everything they can including lying the truth to you about the other, and third being able to participate in the debates. The system is fixed and it has been for many years. Most these politicians do not listen to the general public. When you here one speaking about its constituents they are referring to the lobbyist of the corporations and banks that sent them. So for me it doesn’t matter who is in office, and if their are Republican or Democrat. What ever the ones with trillions upon trillions of dollars at hand to throw around want done and put into law, the puppets on the end of the strings do accordingly.

  219. And WTF does a wealth management company’s opinions
    have to do with ANYTHING?
    Maybe the Association of Pole Dancers On Medicare would like to chime in?

  220. FREDRICK M. DUNCAN | Apr 24, 2014, 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm |

    He paid his grazing fee until they started trying to throw him off the land and then he asked himself why should he pay them for that. He was making improvements to the land at his own expense. And he was paying fees to Clark County before, during, and after the BLM took jurisdiction. They were not taking his cows to pay the back fees, they dug pits and started to shoot them and cover them up.

  221. According to Gallop, not only are Canadians more satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, they are more satisfied with the quality of that care.

  222. A-hole BROKE THE LAW HE SIGNED, 37 times!

  223. “In Any Event” 8 million is a far cry from 30 Million without insurance, OR, what is about to happen when the broken laws (37) O’Bung-hole perpetrated , come to a head with employers and Unions!

  224. sounds just like the private blue cross insurance i’ve been buying the last 27 years…

  225. FREDRICK M. DUNCAN | Apr 24, 2014, 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm |

    During the stand off charges were made that
    Bundy was a deadbeat, his cattle were trespassing and killing the tortoise, he
    was a terrorist, and finally his supporters were bastards from bigamy Utah.
    This is more of the same, an attempt by the liberal press to discredit or demonize Mr. Bundy so that he, his rights, and his cause can be beaten down with no
    one to help him.

    His remarks are anything
    but racist. He only asks the question are the people really free? Free to do
    what? Live in government housing, live and die on the dole, find no play or
    work to elevate themselves? To Loose their daughters to prostitution and drugs
    and their sons to gang violence, drugs, and murders? At least when they
    were slaves they were productive and had hope.

  226. FREDRICK M. DUNCAN | Apr 24, 2014, 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm |

    You lie, he is paying, has paid, and has raised beef for all people to eat since 1870.

  227. The leftist/socialists who passed the ACA got rid of perfectly good policies, such as the so-called “catastrophic insurance” plans. Thanks to Obama and his socialists cohorts, this ACA will be universally hated. It’s all according to plan.

    The socialists under Obama and others, hopefully no RINOs, will then pass a “fix” to the ACA. You all must realize that this will be a single-payer, nationalization of all health care companies, an immense destruction of a system that has flaws, but, is salvageable. You will see this in your life-time, count on it.

    An immensely cumbersome and horrific socialist version of health care will precipitate a massacre of the old, infirm, unwanted souls in our once great nation. The only way that this can work is if the “death panels” rid the system of the expensive lost causes.

  228. FREDRICK M. DUNCAN | Apr 24, 2014, 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm |

    No he is not. What he observed as an old white man is that blacks on the government dole living in sub standard subsidized housing are less than free.
    If you are black, play the race card and eliminate support, Obama.

  229. Miguel, are you legal here? :) Fact: I’m a moderate from a military family (US Army and Navy). Latino right wingers are generally traitors to their own self-interest. Or they are misguided Cubans. Ya got GOP friends? I’ll bet they talk racist trash behind your back.

  230. FREDRICK M. DUNCAN | Apr 24, 2014, 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm |

    @$200 to join, then $2500 deductible to use it, not affordable. Then try to find a doctor who will participate/accept AC. In my metro area just three doctors for a population of 167,948. They are in a clinic 10 miles from the geographical center.

  231. According to Gallup, Canadians are not only more satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, they’re more satisfied with the quality of that care.

  232. Kristine Kelley Bailey | Apr 24, 2014, 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm |

    They don’t call it The New York Slimes for nothin’.

  233. “right wing hoe”
    How’s that for an argument from a liberal? Wow, if I were your son I would be ashamed.

  234. Liberals can’t argue a point, they can only assassinate character, proven once again by good ol’ George here.

  235. Liberals/Democrats are responsible for creating and maintaining the “plantation”. This is their bread and butter, the way they keep power. Liberals dole out the pork to pay for votes, they then exploit the foolish tax-payer, maintain a strangle-hold on the education system and the circle is complete. It’s a vicious cycle, it enables no one to succeed unless they sell their soul to the state. The state is their religion. Disagreeing with their religion is sacrilege, punished by “death”, either social or physical, no matter, you’re out of commission. Yet another circle complete. Isn’t that wonderful?

  236. You should have stopped at conservatives don’t understand.

  237. exactly.

  238. If there are groups of people deliberately trying to end something then there will be problems with it. This is another fear based article. Instead of giving this program a chance, they attack it using things like this article.

  239. Everybody on the Left keeps saying it’s working. WHAT’S WORKING? Almost nobody has had a chance to use it yet.

    Now, they’re going to find out that you get what you pay for.

  240. Typical diatribe from a mentally deficient/deviant liberal. Mental health should be one of the first attempted cures when someone like Jason shows indications of liberalism. I’m sure that after some shock-therapy or some sort of water-boarding would be helpful in restoring Jason to the status of sane tax-payer.

  241. Paid by the Koch Bros…that’s me alright. You got me gov’ner, it’s a fair cop! Rich as can be, that’s me alrighty.
    All kidding aside, this “Jon”, why the people named “Jon” always seem to be fan-girls of Obama is interesting, has not done a bit of arguing about the subject at hand. The mindset of the liberal, diseased as they are, can’t conceive of the concept of debating anything.
    Instead, the typical mental-case/liberal can only resort to name-calling, swearing, character assassination, and violence. It has been proven that the liberal, as “Jon” the fan-girl is a prime example, cannot engage in public debate. The liberal will never undertake the research required to refute an argument. They will always betray their contempt for wisdom at every turn, with few exceptions. The issue is that the ACA is a horror. Not one word about that from “Jon”-the-fan-girl or any other liberal. This is typical.

  242. The mandate is an authoritarian agenda instituted by the lib-progresso elite

  243. Interesting. You aren’t engaging in the discussion, you have a hatred of Cruz, you don’t seem to get anything that’s been said before. You, sir, are an idiot.

  244. TT, that would mean you would have to take it out of your mouth.

  245. You could’t have chosen a better name,because you sure are pysco! You are also drunk on right wing bull shit!!

  246. Connie, you right wing hoe, in most cases it’s ALL ABOUT RACISM. You following the rancher story and illegal grazing and his views of black people? I doubt it.

  247. Yeah, John Jett, how many bananas do you eat per day? Clearly, you are a white trash monkey…

  248. 2010 The Obamacare nightmare will die in congress.
    2011 Wait, the Obamacare nightmare will die in SCOTUS.
    2012 Obamacare is Obama’s re-election nightmare.
    2013 Obamacare is a nightmare wrapped in an enigma.
    2014 The Real Obamacare Nightmare is Just Beginning

    People need to move on. Every year its the same nonsense with a different title.

  249. For most of us, ACA isn’t that visible, and the
    benefits often are the least visible part. The biggest winners are
    probably those on expanded Medicaid, and I’m confident many of them
    don’t know they were helped by ACA. Don’t expect it to get better; it’s
    going to be less and less likely that people will identify the benefits
    they are receiving with ACA. In five years, plenty of those in the
    exchanges won’t realize that under the old system they would have had a
    pre-existing condition that would have barred them from being insured.
    Even if they realize that such a restriction once existed, they almost
    certainly won’t realize that their minor medical condition would have

    Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this
    point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up
    for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep
    hearing from the conservative side.

    But conservative politicians aren’t just deceiving their constituents;
    they’re also deceiving themselves. Right now, Republican political
    strategy seems to be to stall on every issue, and reap the rewards from
    ’s inevitable collapse. Well, Obamacare isn’t collapsing — it’s
    recovering pretty well from a terrible start. And by the time that
    reality sinks in on the right, health reform will be irreversible.

  250. Seems that the Obama administration has two problems with their figures. They can’t provide the documentation proving their numbers… and they can’t account for 2.5 million people they claim are enrolled.

  251. Only if that is all they can compute.

  252. you funny too.

  253. We haven’t seen anything yet, but when the s-it hits the fan it will not be pretty.

  254. You can make the prettiest car in the world, but if people can not afford it, then the car ain’t worth a dam.

  255. So, you have nothing with which to defend O-care, just personal cheap shots at people you don’t know.

  256. Only a retarded Chimpanzee or anyone like a retarded chmpanzee would vote for a worthless dirt bag like Obama, or any Democrat for that matter.

  257. More lying about Obamacare… What a bunch of ignorant, undereducated, and delusional right wing dolts are posting drivel here. Some of you are Neo-Confederates. Yup, seems y’all want Civil War: the Sequel. That Okay, lets go! Am I a liberal? Nah. I’m way too pro gun and pro death penalty. I will put on the Union Blues to defend America.

  258. How can you get at the turtles with all those armed BLM people around them?

  259. No, acme, it’s true. I saw the interview with one of the pilots who came forward. he was, of course, never seen again after that. Hmmm.

  260. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED comes to mind…

  261. yep, this bubble is just looking for a good place to pop. I strongly advise anyone to NOT financne anything any time in the near future. pay off as much of your debt as possible. And consider moving some of your retirement over to untouchable places.

  262. Yes, you heard it as WARNING in 2012, 2012, and 2013. Now you’re gonna hear it as a legitimate complaint from the reality of the ACA working in its current state. The complaints are already coming in about reimburesments not being made and doctors not accepting the insurance from the exchanges. What the author is saying is ALREADY happening.
    One of the main reasons healthcare spending is down is because the insurance companies aren’t reimbursing the doctors for their services. There’s no way you can tell me this is a good thing.
    Sure, more people are “covered”. But when they’re covered with an insurance fewer doctors accept, it might as well be Medicaid, which is one of the worst payors of any insurance company known to the insurance world. Having millions more people on Medicaid hardly makes them”covered”.
    To think that wwe’re not still in a recession is a pipe dream at best. We’re far from being out of the woods. The republicans are definitely NOT facing a nightmare.

  263. CALIFORNIAMARTY | Apr 24, 2014, 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm |


    1. IRS targets Obama’s enemies: The IRS targeted
    conservative and pro-Israel groups prior to the 2012 election. Questions are
    being raised about why this occurred, who ordered it, whether there was any
    White House involvement and whether there was an initial effort to hide who knew
    about the targeting and when.

    2. Benghazi: This is actually three scandals in

    The failure of administration
    to protect the Benghazi mission.

    The changes made to the
    talking points in order to suggest the attack was motivated by an
    anti-Muslim video

    The refusal of the White
    House to say what President Obama did the night of the attack

    3. Watching the AP: The Justice Department performed a
    massive cull of Associated Press reporters’ phone records as part of a leak

    4. Rosengate: The Justice Department suggested that Fox
    News reporter James Rosen is a criminal for reporting about classified
    information and subsequently monitored his phones and emails.

    5. Potential Holder perjury I: Attorney General Eric
    Holder told Congress he had never been associated with “potential
    prosecution” of a journalist for perjury when in fact he signed the affidavit
    that termed Rosen a potential criminal.

    6. The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme: Allowed weapons
    from the U.S. to “walk” across the border into the hands of Mexican drug
    dealers. The ATF lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which were
    used in crimes, including the December 2010 killing of Border Patrol Agent
    Brian Terry.

    7. Potential Holder Perjury II: Holder told Congress in
    May 2011 that he had just recently heard about the Fast and Furious gun walking
    scheme when there is evidence he may have known much earlier.

    8. Sebelius demands payment: HHS Secretary Kathleen
    Sebelius solicited donations from companies HHS might regulate. The money would
    be used to help her sign up uninsured Americans for ObamaCare.

    9. The Pigford scandal: An Agriculture Department
    effort that started as an attempt to compensate black farmers who had been
    discriminated against by the agency but evolved into a gravy train delivering several
    billion dollars in cash to thousands of additional minority and female farmers
    who probably didn’t face discrimination.

    10. GSA gone wild: The General Services Administration
    in 2010 held an $823,000 training conference in Las Vegas, featuring a clown
    and a mind readers. Resulted in the resignation of the GSA administrator.

    11. Veterans Affairs in Disney World: The agency wasted
    more than $6 million on two conferences in Orlando. An assistant secretary was

    12. Sebelius violates the Hatch Act: A U.S. special
    counsel determined that Sebelius violated the Hatch Act when she
    made “extemporaneous partisan remarks” during a speech in her official
    capacity last year. During the remarks, Sebelius called for the election of the
    Democratic candidate for governor of North Carolina.

    13. Solyndra: Republicans charged the Obama
    administration funded and promoted its poster boy for green energy despite
    warning signs the company was headed for bankruptcy. The administration
    also allegedly pressed Solyndra to delay layoff announcements until after the
    2010 midterm elections.

    14. AKA Lisa Jackson: Former EPA Administrator Lisa
    Jackson used the name “Richard Windsor” when corresponding by email with other
    government officials, drawing charges she was trying to evade scrutiny.

    15. The New Black Panthers: The Justice Department was
    accused of using a racial double standard in failing to pursue a voter
    intimidation case against Black Panthers who appeared to be menacing voters at
    a polling place in 2008 in Philadelphia.

    16. Waging war all by myself: Obama may have violated
    the Constitution and both the letter and the spirit of the War Powers
    Resolution by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

    17. Biden bullies the press: Vice President Biden’s
    office has repeatedly interfered with coverage, including forcing a reporter to
    wait in a closet, making a reporter delete photos, and editing pool reports.

    18. AKPD not A-OK: The administration paid millions to
    the former firm of then-White House adviser David Axelrod, AKPD Message
    and Media, to promote passage of Obamacare. Some questioned whether the firm
    was hired to help pay Axelrod $2 million AKPD owed him.

    19. Sestak, we’ll take care of you: Former White House
    Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel used Bill Clinton as an intermediary to probe
    whether former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) would accept a prominent, unpaid White
    House advisory position in exchange for dropping out of the 2010 primary
    against former Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.).

    20. I’ll pass my own laws: Obama has repeatedly
    been accused of making end runs around Congress by deciding which laws to
    enforce, including the decision not to deport illegal immigrants who may have
    been allowed to stay in the United States had Congress passed the “Dream Act.”

    21. The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer: It’s not
    clear who hacked the CBS reporter’s computer as she investigated the Benghazi
    scandal, but the Obama administration and its allies had both the motive and
    the means to do it.

    22. An American Political Prisoner: The sudden decision to
    arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula on unrelated charges after protests in the Arab
    world over his anti-Muslim video is an extraordinarily suspicious
    coincidence. “We’re going to go out and we’re going to prosecute the
    person that made that video,” Hillary Clinton allegedly told the father of one
    of the ex-SEALs killed in Banghazi.

    23. Get rid of inconvenient IGs: Corporation for
    National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin was fired
    in 2009 as he fought wasteful spending and investigated a friend of Obama’s,
    Sacramento Mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson. The White House says
    Walpin was incompetent.

    24. Influence peddling: An investigation is underway of
    Alejandro Mayorkas, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services,
    who has been nominated by Obama for the number two post at the Department of
    Homeland Security. Mayorkas may have used his position to unfairly obtain U.S.
    visas for foreign investors in company run by Hillary Clinton’s brother,
    Anthony Rodman.

  264. OK, now you’re either making stuff up or getting it off the Right-Wing Nut-Balls R Us channel.

  265. The RAPE of America continues with the Democrats at the helm
    and has been evident for OVER last 6 + years…. Racism being created by
    Obama…Holder…their buddy Felon Sharpton….impossible unemployment, history making deficits, never mentioned millions
    of homeless, spying on american’s phones, computers, email, financial
    information, stolen billions from our medicare and social security, increased
    false racism data fed to us by government…Democrat owned media (CFR/TLC
    brainwashing) to try and put american’s into a false sense of security,
    allowing over 38 million illegals pushed on our floundering economy, increased
    racial tensions, have more and more CFR/Trilateral nominee’s appointed and a
    Supreme Court making laws against Americans, allowing insider trading with the senate,
    congress, and every “in the know”
    employee in the fed, propaganda through the AP/Bloomberg/CNN/CNBC/Yahoo/
    etc creating more in-fighting , and the violation of our constitution over and
    over by the individuals we elected and the farce of the Unconstitutional
    OBAMACARE …As all the VIOLATIONS committed against our Constitution.

  266. High premiums under Obamacare? Maybe. Not higher than $18,000 a year for a family of four. And I’m a family of 2 and it’s almost $10,000 a year, with 25% copays and $2000 deductibles with $8.5K maximum out of pocket. Because I had a 99% curable cancer in 2008, I can’t leave this plan. Until now. So let’s keep in mind that the system being replaced is very expensive. Imagine if I lost my job, had 2 kids in college and my COBRA payments for 1.5 years were $18,000 a year. That is exactly the situation with some of my co-workers. I hear people have very affordable insurance in some states before the ACA. Maybe they were 30 years old, because the premiums go up as you age, and I’m 56.

  267. wait….let me guess….a lawyer? Go f##ck yourself dog banger.

  268. I fear for your children.

  269. They were in Iraq. They were moved to Pakistan. You wouldn’t remember because you wait to be told your truth- but Iraq kept the inspectors out for months…then magically let them in.

    You, like your heroes, are a dog banger.

  270. More lies sponsored by George Soros.

  271. He is a racist, and a cheat! I pay my taxes like it or not. I’m a very small business owner and I pay my taxes. I don’t have the loop holes the big Corps do, but I pay my taxes. What’s this guys problem…..he doesn’t recognize the Federal Government!!! Give me a BREAK!! Move to a different country and see how this behavior works for ya!!
    You can’t dismiss the Federal Government and Fly the American Flag…he should have been Flying his State’s Flag! What he is doing is wrong and it has nothing to do with this President and his over reach!
    If Mr. Bundy was any kind of man or American he would do the right thing.
    I’m tired of people and all the right wing talking heads blah, blah, blahhing about those ethnic people using the system cause they’re lazy,etc……And Mr. Bundy is what….????? Do you realize that most people who are utilizing public assistance are white!!!

  272. The Obama Health Care Tax Bill is on the way, hang on to your wallets.

  273. Repeat after me…
    “Blame Koch Bothers….Bush….Wal-Mart….Bush….FOX….Bush….Koch Brothers….Bush”

    Then follow up with 3 “HAIL SOROS!”

  274. obama lied, cheated and connived his way into the “American Dream” and is a complete and utter failure as president.

  275. TOLD YOU SO!

  276. Wait until the “limo plan” tax kicks in…the first time health care was ever taxed?

  277. Is 8 million people enrolled in a mandatory program, punishable under law for non-compliance, a success? Isn’t that like saying Americans love the income tax because so many people paid it last year? Make it optional and then see how popular it really is. Give people a choice, and then let them choose for good or bad.

  278. It’s alleged that a large percentage of the Obamacare exemptions were going to businesses in Pelosi’s district.

  279. Would that be a “Vape Pen?”

  280. Yeah, yeah…just keep sweeping every lie, mis-fire and set-back under the rug. Keep playing with the actual enrollment, payment and rate-hike numbers. Keep supplementing and propping up the flawed plan with more money appropriations hidden within more and more new bills. Keep kicking the can down the road until most people finally forget what their old health plans used to be like – and keep calling the ones that still remember their old plans “liars.”

  281. Because you’re left wing media is so believable? Hilarious. Keep drinking the koolaid you little statist.

  282. Actually, even libs realize they can’t keep blaming Bush forever and ever. So, voila, a New Straw Man!

  283. What percentage of 22-26 year olds really need insurance? Stats? BTW who are the true paternalists in this country? Look in the mirror.

  284. Yeh I guess Hillary should have voted against the war in Iraq…right? BTW look up the war resolution. That was not the only issue.

  285. I can tell you’re a big thinker. /sarc. Just another spewer of talking points.

  286. Thus Speaketh the George $oro$ Fairy.

  287. Do tell -what were his main points?

  288. Train wreak.

  289. After reading the article, it appears that the author feels that people are better off without health care insurance. All those poor 22-26 year olds on their parents plan. All those poor people that now qualify for medicaid. All those poor people with pre-existing conditions that are now covered.

  290. I did database programming. I was good at it. For the most part what you say is true about data accessibility. BUT, it took long time to write the code to extract ancillary data. Evidently you are not familiar with database or any other type of programming.

    Then when you start babbling about liberals and our lying hero, illegal muslim immigrant, blah-blah-blah, you reveal yourself to be just another ignorant, hater, wingnut. Take a hike.

  291. I just can’t find anything other than right-wing media that supports what is said here. Garbage.

  292. “The Obamacare Nightmare is Just Beginning”, heard that in 2011, again in 2012, once more in 2013, and yet again in 2014. Given the fact that more people are covered now than at any point since the Great Recession, given the fact that the medical inflation rate is as close to the overall inflation rate as it has been since the 70s, given the fact that healthcare spending as a % of GDP is declining, given the fact that the economy hasn’t gone into recession as most conservative have insisted it would we can see the nightmare is really onlyjust beginning for Republicans.

  293. It’s not happening in the country as a whole. There has been no uptick in the number of part-time workers. Period. But businesses are exempt from the mandate until next year, so you’re blowing hot air.

  294. Anybody familiar with database programming or administration knows that queries can be written that will retrieve any data desired. If the database is properly designed it would be quite easy to query for and report on any and all statistics relating to Obummer care this would include membership counts and all attributes for each and every member’s account. When they say “we don’t have the exact figures” that is on outright lie. Someone needs to take a serious look at their software and database and report on why they can’t seem to come up with accurate statistics – they are simply assuming you are all a bunch of good little liberal ignoramuses that will swallow any crap they feed you. Show me one viable business with a customer database that doesn’t know every attribute of its customers and I’ll show you a bunch of lying scam-artists that are in cahoots with the POTus to defraud the good people of the US. Face it liberals your hero is a liar and a fraud, an illegal muslim immigrant posing as a POTus when in reality he’s nothing more than a worthless stoner.

  295. The only thing hastier than the press conference is this attempt at a response. It’s actually coming together surprisingly well, regardless of of what ‘Fred the software’ says. There may be some political fallout for outspoken opponents – but they’ll be covered regardless

  296. Borrow against it? They’ve been sticking IOUs into a WVa vault to take the money for more than a generation. There is no money in the “pot.” There is only the promise from US taxpayers to US taxpayers. The Congress has all the authority it needs to do with those promises whatever it desires. Individuals who have paid into the system for their working lives have no legal claim to anything–only the promise of maybe getting back some of what they paid in, maybe more. But if they die younger–a certain outcome for some due to ObamaKare’s death panels, they get nowhere near what they paid in. The ignorance of so many who have paid so much for the promise of “maybe” is surprising.

  297. More lies sponsored by the Koch Brothers.

  298. when you compare the 2007 economic figures right before the 2008 collapse we see the 2014 figures are damn near the same,the economy will collapse soon.

  299. Yeah, and we’re going to find those WMDs in Iraq any day now.

  300. Just lie, upon lie… upon LIE! A single payer system is coming near you when the prez steps out to become the hero and says once for all I will fix this with my phone and my pen!

  301. Jerry R. Barton Sr. | Apr 24, 2014, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm |

    The after shock of Obamacare will be felt for many years-

  302. LOL…geez, Mark, I barely get paid from my three jobs I have to have in order to survive…the GOP pays me nothing. I’m a conservative, not a republican. And I don’t lie. I got my termination notice of my policy from Blue Cross in October…My new policy started in January and my premium was doubled…my deductible went from $2500 to $5000 and both of my doctors, OB/GYN and dermatologist, were not invited into the “system” because they don’t take HMO…so I have to out-of-pocket them. You do the math. $400 times 12 months is $4800 a year, plus the $5000 and then out of pocket medical expenses is about $12k give or take. But I cannot afford the $400 a month so I am going to have to get a catastrophic at $249 just to make sure I have some coverage. Please refrain from saying that I’m this and I’m that when you have NO idea of my circumstances. Try giving me a REASON why you think it will work…from an economic standpoint. I don’t need ANY political party to tell me how to think. I have a brain but I guess since I don’t speak your language, then I’m a paid liar…but in your posting, I’m an oppressed minority. And I do have something to do but this particular social issue is to important not to put out my voice as well. I never told you to stop talking and to go away, I engaged you in a discourse. Defend or not, but please refrain from making false accusations.

  303. Mp you don’t it get the people that say are saving are being sub. by the Gov.

  304. MP let me tell you what is going to happen when the mandate kicks in most all Employers will drop there Ins. becouse it will be cheaper to pay the fine than to pay for Ins 6000,00 per emp. vers. 1000.00 per fine looks like a good deal to me if I was a Co. owner.

  305. When you can’t afford cheap hamburger or steak blame Harry Reid, Eat a Turtle

  306. Yes you are

  307. I have some questions about Obamacare. I don’t really care about the signup number. People may be covered, but does this truly improve healthcare? Many doctors are not going to take Obamacare and only take cash or leave medicine altogether. So this only really helps the rich who can pay cash for their treatment. It seems like the answer to this question is no. So that leads to the true question, why was this law enacted? Answer, as with all of President Obama’s policies… government control over our lives and redistribution of income.

  308. Another sourceless scare tactic article.

  309. If you like your clown president and clown VP, then you can keep your clown president and clown VP. Period.

  310. According to Gallup, In Canada, satisfaction with access to
    affordable healthcare is 57% and satisfaction
    with quality is 52%. In the USA, only 28% are satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare,

  311. Any mention of Koch can be countered by George Soros to the tenth.

  312. Yep unverifiable accusation from the New York Times, which was caught last week of Photoshopping Ukrainian army and claiming they were invading Russian forces. hahah NYT is nothing but a state run media.

  313. Jim, you are right it is insurance but it is a little broader than that. The problem is that Insurance isn’t being used as a hedge against catastrophe as it should be. If the goal was to get more people insured against catastrophic loss, then the measure of how many more people can get this insurance makes sense. But the problem is that insurance is used as a method of payment for Basic Health Maintenance. Instead of paying the doctor directly, we have a middleman managing that. So the costs of healthcare are removed by the consumer. The consumer no longer can put pressure on the provider to lower costs. The health insurance companies don’t care because they can always raise premiums to keep the pool large enough that they can maintain profit. Insurance is a margin business – a broker- they simply are taking a transaction fee to manage the payment. As long as they can maintain a pool from which to pull funds to pay provider costs, they don’t care about the actual costs and neither do patients because those costs are not out of pocket. So providers can continuously raise costs with impunity.

    There are other contributors to high costs such as massive bureaucracies ,etc. but insurance as a middle man is not allowing the free market to work the way it should to drive costs down. A single payer model would leave the middleman in place, so it wouldn’t solve this problem though it might be able to drive more costs through price controls but that will have other issues such as quality and lack of innovation. It’s the same phenomenon that results in $1000 rolls of toilet paper in the Military/Industrial complex.

    The answer is to leave insurance as a hedge for catastrophic risk and revert back to a direct pay model supported by health savings accounts for basic health maintenance which can be subsidized for the poor if needed or just put the poor on a public option like Medicaid. We had this model early last century before government got into the business of regulating (controlling) the markets and subsidizing corporations to provide insurance for employers.

  314. Next you’ll tell me that their outrageous deductibles will go down and they will save $2500 per year. This whole scam is a big lie and when it’s fully implemented it will implode . Mark my words.

  315. Wow dude….was there spit on your chin?..that was probably the most disconnected,irrelevant,unintelligent,beligerrant rant I’ve ever read…I’m thinking when YOU start talking politics even the LIBERALS cringe…you are an embarrassment to liberals like the tea party is to conservative….well, actually your a little worse because you don’t distort content….there wasn’t any to distort….lmfao

  316. You are a damn lying idiot ,MY inlaws are Canadian ,and everything you say is a lie.

  317. I am not a racist you a$$ just smart. It is true about not being able to see doctors. I have a family member with a serious pre-existing condition but nobody around where she lives accepts the so called ACA, she was happy that she could finally see a doctor and be able to afford her medications, but guess what her medication isn’t covered, and she can’t afford the new insurance. So don’t call people racist if you don’t know them. I guess because people don’t like Obamacare they are racist. You are a complete idiot.

  318. It’s called governing. Not everything is based on profit motive, which is what turned our medical system into by far the most expensive one in the world and the ONLY one in civilized countries that leaves those who cannot afford it to die without medical help. We have a contract as citizens whether we like it or not with financial responsibilities that we all share and this is just one more that for some bizarre reason many Americans think is not an imperative while both right and left wing parties across the world would never CONSIDER doing away with nationalized medical care!

  319. You don’t get it Henry, do you? ELECTIONS ARE COMING, HENRY.

  320. Anyone who defends Ted Cruz is not to be considered a clear thinker.

  321. YES he is.

  322. Yeah, right. He’s a patriotic American for failing to pay what others pay as part of the contract of living in this country. He leeches off of the government just like those he and your party condemns. Probably at least half of you trolling these forums are paid by the Koch Bros who inherited their father’s wealth that gave them the incredible benefits and opportunity that those at the bottom never had. You all HATE a black president who succeeded in realizing the American Dream without having that advantage.

  323. But everything is great under Obama! Isn’t it?

  324. I’m seriously tired of proponents of this legislation citing the increased number of insured as if it is an indication of success. First, the data itself is not conclusive as it doesn’t adequately address how many of those actually end up paying, how many previously had insurance and what percentage of these ended up in Medicaid rather than private insurance. This last point is important because we might have achieved the same outcome (number of insured) simply by expanding a public option like Medicaid at a lower cost rather than disrupting the whole insurance industry at a huge cost.

    Nevertheless, let’s assume that the number of insured has increased. First question is the cost to achieve these results worth it? Could a less costly and disruptive path been taken to achieve those outcomes? I certainly think so, so while this measurement could indicate success when other factors are ignored, it does not necessarily mean the program is a success as a whole if the cost caused more harm than good in other areas. In other words, the means do not always justify the ends, something Liberals seem to have a hard time grasping (they are not alone – some on the extreme right are just as guilty for causes they believe in)

    Which leads me to my next point. There are other measurements that can and certainly will counter this single measurement of success. If we were talking about only catastrophic health insurance, I would concede that a single measure of enrolments would be a good indicator of success. However, the fact of the matter is that the primary function of health insurance isn’t for catastrophic coverage, it’s to act as payment method for basic Health Maintenance utilizing a 3rd party as a middleman. If we look at the impact of the ACA on insurance as a method of payment for basic health maintenance, we can see other measures that will count against success. Even if premiums have come down (and this is not a universal case) the deductibles and copays have gone up and provider choice has become limited essentially rendering insurance ineffective for a large portion of the middle class as a method of payment. The only people who end up benefiting are the very rich who don’t care about deductibles or copays and the very poor who have their insurance subsidized. This is a classic outcome of any wealth redistribution scheme. So, while the number of insured may have gone up, the number of people who are effectively unable to use their insurance as a method of payment has gone up as well.

    Is that a success when you have now caused a significant portion of the population to have to choose between paying for basic healthcare or putting a roof over their kids heads because the money is coming out of pocket anyway? Is it fair that these people no longer have a financial benefit they once enjoyed but would be forced to take on a second job to restore that benefit while the poor don’t have to work at all and get that same benefit from government subsidies? Seriously? It seems to me that wealth redistribution was the primary desired outcome being masked by success being measured by increased enrollments. The desired outcome is in fact a larger voting base to keep certain politicians in power.

    The problem is that insurance in the middle obscures the costs of healthcare by separating the consumer from the producer allowing for bizarre impacts on the supply chain and costs not to mention that adding an additional component to the supply and delivery chains will only serve to make the costs of production higher. The ACA has done nothing to address the causes of rising healthcare costs at all! The answer is to move to a system that removes insurers as a method of payment for basic health maintenance and leave them in place for what they were initially intended – as a hedge against medical catastrophes – in other words true insurance. This system existed before the modern health insurance and HMO models became entrenched with the help of government regulation. Moving toward a direct pay model supported with Health Savings Accounts, etc. will allow families to self-insure for basic health maintenance and drive costs down and then supplement that with catastrophic health insurance as a true risk mitigation solution.

    A single payer model does not address the problem either as it leave in place the middleman as payer still obscuring costs by removing consumer from producer. A single payer model might have some impact on improving efficiency, though I will argue that true (non or low regulated) free market alternatives will lead to better efficient models but that is a different discussion. However, leaving in place the single payer will still lead to bizarre supply chain anomalies that will increase costs. It’s the same phenomenon that led to $1000 rolls of toilet paper in the Military/Industrial complex model

  325. You are an idiot. Obama has failed in epic fashion on the economy, job creation, debt reduction, unemployment, foreign policy and every other issue while breaking promises, telling lies, creating scandals, blaming others for his failures, etc. etc. etc. Virtually everything people warned us about Obama has come true.

  326. Actually, no, you are wrong. Kind of on the right track but wrong anyway. This was a civil matter not a criminal matter. A Lien, as a judgment in civil court, against the Bundy property, was the proper course of action here if the money is truly owed. Why has the government not provided us with a copy of said bill?

  327. And the Republicans knew better than to try to shove this mess down the whole nations throat!

  328. And what do you think is going to happen when the “employer mandate”, that Obama illegally delayed, kicks in? Employers will be dropping coverage because of the cost hike!! And explain how this is such a good thing that most of the people that are supposedly signed up for this are on the medicaid part? Who do you think pays for that? How is it any different than the tax payers paying for them to be seen in the ER? Tax payers are still paying for them!!

  329. Plus how many have lost their insurance because it didn’t meet the ACA standards?

  330. Time to send the drones to eliminate these dangerous terrorist!

  331. My employer can’t even quote me right bc “they don’t know what it will be once the premiums rise” and the company they go through tells me that I have to talk to whoever is involved in my company. I go through access health and I continue to get emails with the same link (the one that sends you to the site that has been down since Obamacare started). And every time I call to talk about my quote I have to wait for the email bc I have to check what covers me, or their system needs to reboot-so call back, or the quote has some how changed. And at one point I was asked for my credit card in order to get a premium. I talked with someone else and mentioned that this worker was asking people for it. Oh, their excuse-everything keeps changing and the workers are still learning…..It’s getting ridiculous. Just my experience so far.

  332. The reason there is fault found is because it’s a glaring failure of the democrats.

    Have you read today that the law suits are starting up. I see that $100 billion CBO estimated reduced cost going out the window very quickly.

  333. These numbers will have NO effect on Liberals because they do not understand them. But they will recognize that something is wrong when they are working for minimum wage in what used to be the richest country in the world.

  334. @MPBulletin:disqus, you must be living in LA LA land to think that if EVERYONE hates Obamacare..are considered “Right Wing Conservative”. If so, then you ARE AN IDIOT.
    Recent polls (this week) indicate that over 80% of the people (random polling) HATE Obamacare. Even Democrats said that this is anything BUT Affordable Health Care Plan.

  335. Yep, even Denny’s has cut back hours to put the staff on Obamacare instead of the plan they already had. They will probably miscount all these people as new people who never had health care, knowing how the obamacare program lies about stats.

  336. Hmm, for those of us who are self-employed and for those who are under-employed, ObamaCare has been a savior. Over the past 10-15 years I saw my insurance premiums sky rocket and the benefits get watered down. Every little health issue caused my rates to jump the next year. I am paying slightly more for my new coverage but my benefits are so much better. I know there are flaws and changes will need to happen as we move forward but we had to start somewhere and I applaud him for stepping up and addressing these issues. If you are provided health insurance from your employers or government, you really have no idea how bad it got to buy insurance as an individual. We as Americans should be proud to make our healthcare more accessible for our citizens. Lets be more angry about the billions of dollars we send out in foreign aid or spend on wars that we shouldn’t be leading. I know ObamaCare is not perfect, but in time we can make changes to get it closer.

  337. Robert Schecterman | Apr 24, 2014, 4:24 pm at 4:24 pm |

    rightwing hit job with inaccuracy’s only outweighed by bold face lies . access to doctors not even worth comment, not able to verify coverage ,where’s his proof ,high co=pays was he alive during previous system . will ACA having growing pains ,yes , butb that was a disgraceful inaccurate hit piece .

  338. REMEMBER we have almost 400 MILLION people living in the USA (NOT counting the illegals). You need at least 40 MILLION people (10%) to be called “marginal” at best…
    You must NOT be thinking about the HARD WORKING TAX PAYING citizens of the USA.

  339. From the L. A. Times
    all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people)
    are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are
    predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.

    2. 95%of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

    3. 75%of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

    4. Over2/3of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

    5.Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

    6.Over 300,000 illegal aliensin Los Angeles
    County are living in garages.

    7… The FBI reportshalfof all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

    8Nearly 60%of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

    9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.

    In L.. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak
    Spanish.. (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County .)

    (All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)

    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but29% are on welfare.
    Over 70% of the United States ‘ annual population growth(and over 90%
    of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

    We are fools for letting this continue .

  340. I agree. Sending a Swat Team equipped with sniper rifles and armored vehicles to get back unpaid bills is perfectly American and freedom loving.

  341. another conservative rant aka nervous tic over the new health care law. There is coverage under the new system for mental health disorders which conservative wingnuts are surely in need of. LOL.

  342. @MPBulletin, I guess you are NOT thinking as you type because you seem to forget the 7+ MILLION people who were HAPPY with their health plans and were HAPPY with their doctors were “cancelled”. Even now, you only see 8 MILLION people signed up. Do the math, this means only 1 MILLION “new” people signed up for this Obamanation. How is this NOT like Hilter?? TRY to use your brain for it’s true purpose!!! IDIOT!!!

  343. One of the big problems is a big part of the cost is being dumped on the 20 somethings and 30 somethings. People 50+ pay a fraction of what they should.

  344. Obama equals failure.

  345. When you tell the truth about the un-American activities of CONservative oligarchs and their puppets, the only thing they can do is claim that you’re “crazy.”

    After all, they can’t rightly defend their activities buying politicians and corrupting government as the values so many fought, bled and died to entrust to us.

    CONservatives are unAmerican, and they know it. They just hope you’re not “crazy” enough to catch on.

  346. But according to Harry Reid and Pelosi, this is all fabrications and racism. I don’t know how a thinking person who understands how this will impact the economy (outside of those getting the subsidy’s / freebies) is going to help anything. It’s so obvious liberals have lied, manipulated and forced this thing through from the get go…starting with we could keep our insurance.

  347. SupportMcCarthyism | Apr 24, 2014, 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm |

    While liberals, for the most part, are not signing up for the “care” plan, many still expect everyone else to believe it’s the greatest thing that has happen since the founding of America, especially the liberal rags.

  348. Except they aren’t raped, whipped or tortured. They don’t have to worry about their relatives being sold off and never seeing them again. They don’t have to work very long hours in drudge labor for no pay. They have an opportunity (Too few take it, I admit) to get an education. Should many of them commit less crime, pay more attention in school and not blame all of society for their own problems? Yes, but they are better off than when they were actual chattel.

  349. Will the CBO include the law suits that are starting up because of Obamacare? The law suits will easily eat up the $100 billion supposed reduced estimate.

    Even though Obama is trying to delay the big hits until after election so to minimize the democrats exposure to this disaster, the fact remains this program is a big pile of dung and the majority of the American people realizes that.

  350. From your post you are a hate-filled, miserable human being. I believe most if not all on the “right” would like to see AFFORDABLE health care available for everybody. The ACA just isn’t affordable. Mr. Obama is responsible for the collapse of this country because of HIS policies. Quit blaming republicans for the problems this president has brought about. Republicans would like to turn this country around and start creating jobs instead of burdening small business with so many rules and regulations that the money they would use to expand instead goes to satisfy gov’t intrusion. Many liberals are so blinded to reality that I cannot fathom that anyone could be that stupid.

  351. I don’t know about the rest of the country but In SF the restaurant world, and lower wage world are being turned upside down cutting back hours to part time just to get out of the mandate.

  352. No, but they do have the right to take your cows if you don’t pay your grazing fees. Now they shouldn’t have turned it into a circus but he DOES owe the money. What they should have done is wait until he goes into town and quietly arrest him in the middle of a crowd where there really isn’t room for a shootout.

  353. It’s funny how the people who were for Obamacare, like left wing drones and unions are vying for exemptions from the mandate and Obamacare all together. Furthermore, those same people excoriated Ted Cruz only to embrace Obama when he delayed the mandate.
    Really funny! NOT!

  354. Henry, we want the law rolled out as planned so that all the voters that got fooled the past two times have their eyes WIDE OPEN in the voting booth. You see propaganda is a very powerful tool as we have seen with the worst President in history getting reelected. But there is one thing more powerful than propaganda and that is truth driven home when the wallet gets emptied of the very thing the people who voted for Obama thought they were going to keep…their money and other people’s money.

  355. Jason, you are a F* king IDIOT!!! I wish this technology allows me to reach out and put a foot in your fat arse. MORON!!!

  356. Please be aware…if your mother is getting Medicaid assistance right now and she passes, the gov’t can swoop in and take everything in her name to repay their ‘KINDNESS’ (Medicaid) unless your father is still living and in the home. If she’s alone you may want to consult with a lawyer to see if you need to transfer property, etc. into someone else’s name. I have heard of grown children watching their childhood homes taken the minute the parent passes away. They are vultures.

  357. didn’t the media JUST said that Obamacare is a SUCCESS !!!!!??? Why the constant contradiction?

  358. These nimrods never face reality. If it was so good why didn’t the government run commercials showing average premiums, from state to state, instead of trying to appeal to “Frat Boys”. Why the need for waivers for special groups if it’s so great? No, they made people go online and hand over all of their information, once in you couldn’t back out (I’ve been told). It’s just common sense that if something is that good people will flock to it, not run like he** to avoid it.

  359. Just made my last visit to my orthopedic surgeon. His office does not accept ACA. He recommended me to a pain specialist for a cortisone injection. Guess what? That’s right, he’s office doesn’t accept ACA either. They both said that they negotiate their contracts with the insurance companies on either an annual or bi-annual basis. For my ortho guy, that was in January, and it’s for two years. Won’t be seeing him again most likely. Too bad, he’s a great surgeon. As for the pain guy, he does his annually, so maybe I can see him next year (except that I hurt now).
    I was on COBRA insurance, but it’s dying this month (18 months out now) and couldn’t get it extended.
    Can’t wait until I go to see my endocrinologist next month. I bet I know his answer as well. Also can’t wait to find out how much my daily meds are going to cost me. Looks like I’ll be paying cash for office visits (can’t ignore this one) on top of the premium payments. Oh joy.
    Great job, Obama. I’m now paying over $900 a month for insurance that nobody accepts, to avoid the tax penalty (which is why most people are signing up, I think). It would be cheaper to pay the penalty if I can’t find a doctor within 20 miles to talk to me.

  360. Obama and the democrats gave 85% of the people in this country the finger with this law.

  361. This article exaggerates the risks greatly. Yes, Obamacare is a government mandate to force people to buy insurance. That’s why you don’t hear any private insurance companies bitching about it. They love it. Who wouldn’t want millions of new customers for free? But, when you sign up via the exchange, as I did, you are presented with your premium, deductibles, and copays in big bold letters. Unless people are retarded, they would know these things up front. I can’t imagine anyone being surprised by these costs later. I can only guess the author did not sign up for health insurance via the exchanges or he would know this. Maintain a budget and if you can’t afford ACA, then pay the tax penalty. Boom. As far as access to care, I signed up for an HMO, not cheap by any means, but fully integrated with its “in plan” service providers. To be fair, I did have to lose my old doctor (unaffordable under ACA). But I was able to get my records transferred fairly easily. I am also quite happy with my new doctor and her availability. She often communicates with me electronically to avoid me having to make an office visit (with $30 copay)…used to be $20 pre-ACA). So I am not saying ACA is perfect or even that great, but none of this article is a surprise to anyone unless they are clueless (is the author calling 8 million people clueless?). It’s not being hidden, any of this. The article is pure fear mongering. I do agree that single-payer is inevitable though. We already have it – Medicare – and we ALL already pay for it via payroll taxes. Just make the eligible age 18 and cover dependents. It really is that simple, though the payroll tax would need to rise (but many young healthy people would be paying in and using far less medical care than people 65+, so net cost would be less).

  362. Funny how people that were against that mandate are the ones that are complaining about it being postponed.

  363. The really funny thing is the people believing Obama, a proven and admitted liar without question.

  364. Why are these people always trying to find some fault in this law. Why can’t we be happy that people can get health care. The old system did not work. Insurance companies can no longer drop you if you cost them too much money. The GOP do not want this to work because that would mean that they have lost their number one mission.

  365. “IF” people go to PCP’s instead of ER’s. That is and always has been a huge problem. Many of these new Medicaid clients will have a very difficult time finding a doctor to take them. They will continue to go thru the E.R. for basic medical needs and I doubt anyone will see much if any change in those costs (those incurred by we, the taxpayers). Premiums will continue to rise even though Obama said a family could expect their insurance to go down an average of 2500 per year. I foresee Obama using his pen to increase the “penalty” to punish those of us who would rather pay cash to see their doctor. By the way, I am lower-middle-class (used to be middle-class). My family of 4 have spent LESS THAN $1000 in 13 years for healthcare, YES, 13 YEARS, for medical needs. Two sports physicals, an eye exam, a well-check up for me, and 2 doctor visits for my husband. My youngest hasn’t needed any. We go to the health dept. for Immunizations. Now tell me why I need this lousy healthcare.

  366. The only people saving money are the ones with pre existing conditions. Many more people are actually paying more. The approval rating is not going up for Obama or Obamacare, it is only going to continue to go down.

  367. I heard that Mr. Bundy saw a black ghetto and the men standing around and he commented something about them Negro’s being better off as slaves (something to that effect). If he said that I would have to agree with the basics of the comment. The ghetto dwellers, regardless of ethnicity, are much like slaves but instead now it is the gov’t that is the slave owner. Slaves received food for work (food stamps, no work requirement). They had housing (HUD but have to pay something towards it now). Clothes (Welfare dollars). Only today’s slaves (again regardless of ethnicity) don’t cherish their freedom like those before them.

  368. Bundy is a common criminal and his armed supporters are nothing more than terrorist!

  369. If it is increased access that was very affordable, then why does it need to be mandated. Also increase access does not make it affordable. Keep the few good parts and scrap the rest.

  370. The nightmare is the ACA is working proving republicans wrong again, and people are signing up and like it!

  371. is…my bad, still liberal a$$ kisser

  372. greg us your typical liberal a$$ kisser

  373. Only time because Obama never will. More lies and deceit from him. But after all it has worked for him so far. He was elected twice on his lies.

  374. Social Security was never meant to borrow from idiot, we pay into it, it is meant to be there when we retire not for some scumbag government to treat it as a phucking piggy bank, you idiots really have your heads up your a$$es .

  375. I live in England for two years, it might have been free healthcare for the most part but it was horrible healthcare. I also talk to a guy who had to wait 3 months for an mri to see if he could get a knee replacement and then had to wait 6 months for the surgery. He in the states you have be having a knee replacement in less that a week. I think that there were better ways to take care of people like you that t

  376. Jason you are about as ignorant as they come, keep drinking the koolaide idiot

  377. coneyislandbaby11224 | Apr 24, 2014, 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm |

    Jesus healed the sick. President Obama gave the sick Health Insurance. And the Republican Party gave the sick the finger.

  378. if and when, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  379. So how does an increased access to health care relate to Nazi Germany? Let’s hear how you lay out some specifics. I want to see an intelligent response here david. Can you manage that?
    Given your little diatribe here, I doubt you can.

  380. Your information on employer paid insurance is wrong. ALL insurance policies have to be ” up to the standard” set by the ACA. I know almost everyone I talk to that has employer insurance is paying more this year.

  381. I smell a faux “news” shill…anyone else??
    If it’s so expensive and unaffordable then why are people saving money. Even the Koch bros ads’ participants are saving money, up to $1000 a year. Why are the approval ratings of both Obama AND the ACA improving as more people actually see what they are getting?

  382. Totally agree with you ron

  383. I find it so amusing how idiots liken Obama’s push to provide more people access to basic health care to Hitler.
    DO people even THINK about the things they say anymore?

  384. Let’s talk ridiculous. My grandson’s mom (welfare-bit**, food-stamp recipient, HUD…..) thank god my son booted her to the street and shares custody. Anyway, due to her leaving the baby in his car seat rather than actually letting him crawl, his one side was weaker. Trip to the Dr. with her Medicaid and she’s referred to a specialist. I believe she completed therapy after about 6 months/2 times a month. The cost $650 per 1 HOUR therapy. I am positive non-Medicaid therapy would have cost less IF IT WAS EVEN NECESSARY. There are some Doctors and Hospitals that jack their insurance rates sky high to get reimbursed near what it actually costs. Just remember, if you need a physical or strep-test for the kids (strep tests available for about 20 at any health dept.) make the appt. and let them know you’ll pay cash. You can expect to be put at the top for appts and like my doctor, receive on average a 25% discount due to their not having to complete a cra* load of paperwork.

  385. You mistakenly believe that everyone in America will go through the exchanges. The vast majority of people still get insurance through their employers.
    Still wanna talk Farce, Jon?

  386. Given ALL the doomsayer predictions the Right has laid out about Obama since he stepped foot in the White House and how NONE have come true, it’s astounding anyone (including you) could believe anything the Right says.

  387. And yet, people keep believing them without question.

  388. Just like the Koch bros ads, people think a few anecdotal stories are representative of the whole. AND like the Koch bros ads’ claims, the majority of them have been proven false by numerous fact checkers. The people complaints now more than likely are not being well informed of the process. Like the Koch bros ad participants who didn’t even now what the obamacare private plans included, many of which were shown that people could keep their doctors, paid lower premiums, virtually all their out-of-pocket expenses went to pay the deductibles(unlike old policies), and the covered more medications. Also in many instances these plans had dental care, something that old plans never had.

  389. Does the government have the right to Kill racists? Or does the government only have the right to kill the cows of a racist? What court determines that you are a “racist” before the government kills you or your cows. please explain.

  390. You wrote he IS a racist, prove it, or are you just always going to believe the New York Times which has proven to be a liar (Zimmerman) You call people dumb, you just proved how gullible you are. Mean while you continue to have your head buried in the sand, because the liberals will write or say anything that advances their liberal agenda. KEEP AN OPEN MIND, the whole Bundy deal was about Reid trying to take some BLM land to build a Solar Power Plant, and give control of it to the Chinese Communists.

  391. Agreed!

  392. NONE of the disasters or nightmares predicted by right wing alarmists have come to pass since President Obama took office. But keep trying…….eventually some doom and gloom will happen, just like under Bush.

  393. I live right on the US-Canadian border. Niagara Falls NY. I talk to Canadians all the time. They are MORE than happy with their healthcare and can’t figure out what our problem is. I’m sure you can find some number of people who for time constraints or whatever cross the border into the US for treatment, but there are also people who leave the US for the Domican Repulic for discount surgeries. The cases are rare and statistically insignificant.

  394. I think he is.

  395. I’m betting when it’s time to file 2015 taxes the IRS will have voter registration rolls to either ok or deny waivers for hardship or inability to find affordable health insurance.

  396. She said out of pocket including premiums was 12k a year. So with deductibles, if she has pre existing conditions that she has to meet those deductibles first, then it is very possible that is what she has to pay. My insurance last year covered add and adhd for my 12 year old son. This year it does not, but being a couple in our 50’s at least we are covered for maternity, prenatal and contraception. We have also lost 2 doctors that we have had for over 6 years. I just love how you democrats call everyone liars who have horror stories about Obamacare.

  397. At this point, does anyone really believe anything Obama says?

  398. and to those obadmanobots ” any name to deter from facts is a good angle “” !
    it’s in there hypnotic trance !!!!!

  399. every post you make just proves more stupidity. Obama is the obstructionists here, he has told Harry Reid to not even consider Bill that the House has passed. 30+ jobs bills are sitting in Reid’s desk that he has not even brought up for discussion. How bad would that be for Obama to have the House come up with some good jobs bills. The firs two years he controlled the house and the senate and basically told the republicans that he did not need them, and he would do what ever he wanted. Then he surprised that they don’t want to work with him. He is the one who alienated congress. Use your head.

  400. I’ll buy the hype / distraction angle , 8 out of 315 million is hardly worth bragging rights !
    the rest of the program is a farce at best ,,,,!

  401. Can you point what comment in anything he said was racist?
    Let me guess… he used the word “negro” right!
    Lets hear it!

  402. As i said, typical lib.. You show one thing I wrote that is “racist”?? Did you bother to read my reply because it just looks like you are doing the same old tired liberal rant!

  403. Boy Mark you are just stupid. If Obama was a republican and had done the same things he has done so far, I would dislike it just as much. By the way that surplus your are talking about, was a projection and materialized into a 5.4 trillion dollar deficit along with the beginnings of a recession inherited from Clinton. His average unemployment for the 8 years was 5.4%. The housing crash witch caused the recession was caused by Carter and Clinton policies. The democrats also controlled the house and the senate Bush’s last two years and they did nothing to stop what happened even though Bush tried to get them to do something. Obama is a my way or the hi way type person and had the opportunity to have all the government funded but Obamacare, but he chose not to fund any of it and also took steps to make it just as painful for the American people as possible. Obama is the worst president we have ever had. It does not take much of a brain to see that.

  404. Superb Name Calling skills dude! It really makes your case and proves how intelligent and superior you are. Bless the world with more please.

  405. “Maximum Wage”, “Income Inequality” “Wealth Tax” “Carbon Tax” Federal Land Grab” Don’t you see? These are the real issues! Obunglecare has been decreed a Success! “This thing is working!” Beyond a Smidgeon of a doubt! PERIOD!

  406. Steve 'Steve B' Baughman | Apr 24, 2014, 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm |

    Says the guy who called the 2012 election for Romney right up until the end. If you’re looking to this guy for fortune telling I have some land in Florida to sell you.

  407. we can get out . look up pelosi signs obama’s eligibility . or is that barry sortoro maybe barry Obama who is this guy and why if he was vetted . do we not know this about him?

  408. Another attempt to sabotage the ACA by the right. The ACA is here to stay so if you don’t have any thing better to replace it then shut up.

    More lies from the right.

  409. The basics, yes, I will give you that, but the current form is far from what the reps drafted up. Feel free to compare them line by line, very different!!!

  410. ken must be on medicaid, or a liar, because the ACA is anything but affordable!!! I know, I am and insurance agent!!!!

  411. Yep Hitler is pulling this once Great Nation down everyday he is in office . Even my mom who is 90 years old on social security which is not much & medicaid & now she to pay on things medically she did not have to pay on before Hitler threatened everyone on this SHAM CARE he is forcing us all to apply for its sickening !

  412. We have been having this discussion since 2007…. now pay up…..

  413. Which is why the Canadians that can afford it, come to the US to get treatments??? WOW, some people are just that stupid!!!

  414. You seem to think that it is Ok for Obama to lie to us Mark. I hate the fact that Obama is a terrible leader and is not Presidential material. He like handouts because those people are easier to control. He lies for political gain and to accomplish what he wants. Had he told the truth about Obamacare from the beginning the American people would have never let him pass it.

  415. The federal government is only paying for the medicaid cost for three years, after that, if your stat expanded medicaid, you will have a big increase to your state taxes!!!

  416. CNN will always tell half truths!!! Fact is, if it is a corporate news station, you will only get half the truth! With that said, I am an insurance agent, and about half of my new clients have not paid the premium, I am getting notices in the mail every day, so 50% is about right, but only time will tell!

  417. PG, you don’t get it. Is it because you just don’t want to?

  418. PG – actually if you want the correct percentages:
    16.7% not covered
    55.8% covered by employment-based private health insurance
    8.9% direct purchase private health insurance
    30.6% government health insurance
    The ACA is NOT helping all Americans. My wife HAD insurance prior to the ACA which we easily paid for WITHOUT assistance and loved. Her policy was cancelled due to ACA. Her only option was to enroll on the healthcare exchange, for which she was informed she qualified for Medicaid originally!? Since Medicaid was not rolled out in Georgia, she was going to enter the ranks of the indigent care. She worked TONS of hours overtime Oct-Dec 2013 to rise above the poverty threshold and allow her to obtain ACA coverage. WITH the tax credits for which she qualified – we are now paying $200 MORE per month than we were previously, for a higher deductible ($6,250 instead of $2,500), higher office visits, lost her choice of providers, etc… So PLEASE do NOT state Americans are better off! The facts completely dispute this!!

  419. Hussein ‘Shitstained Liar’ Obama’s nightmare of a radically failed, affirmative action pandering, race baiting mockery of a ‘presidency’ has been for over six years!

  420. The Sad Part is the Only People that Can Afford Ohvomit Care are the Poor that already had Health Care Just No Insurance. Now Millions of Working Americans that Had Health Care Will Have NO Insurance because OHVOMIT Care is Too Expensive!


  422. He IS a racist you utter moron! How unbelievably wide IS your disconnect with realty? 79 thumbs up for your ignorant comment? People in this country are fucking dumb. I mean HORSESHIT dumb, and you are all part of it! LOL. No wonder the liberal agenda is completely taking over this land. They are the only ones with any brains. Have fun clinging to your flags and crosses you ignorant fools. Meanwhile the world will move on. LOL, you are soooooooo bitter. Bitter, miserable twisted souls who think you know something about god. LOL, you don’t have a single spiritual bone in your bodies! Chump ass fake patriots. Chump ass fake holy folk.

  423. Anyone Else Notice How for Weeks and Weeks Now CNN AKA CERTAINLY NOT NEWS Has Covered the Plane That Vanished. That Way They can Give Barrack Obama Cover By NOT Covering the Real News!

  424. bill louis 2 – healthcare costs are still increasing, quality of healthcare is decreasing, experience physicians are retiring as early as possible, healthcare costs MORE with insurance than without in many cases….sorry to dispute your statement – but Obamacare is dramatically increasing the cost of healthcare in this country.

  425. Jim, I would not have believed this simply upon somebody stating it. HOWEVER, I recently had to obtain a CT scan. I was told that with insurance, that I would be billed for the $1,200 not covered by my insurance. However, I called back to obtain the price stating I did not have insurance and asked the price. I was informed they could perform the test for $550!!! I was SHOCKED and amazed! This means that INSURANCE is the primary culprit in exorbitant insurance costs!! Don’t do anybody any favors by giving them health insurance! Apparently many are better off without health insurance! Not only this, had I not had insurance I could have had this test 3 weeks prior (during which time I went through excrutiating pain!). However, insurance REQUIRED that I go through so many weeks of physical therapy (which had ZERO chance of alleviating my problem). Therefore, with insurance I had to pay for multiple physical therapy visits, endure 3 weeks of unnecessary pain and pay substantially more for my healthcare than if I didn’t have insurance?! The problem with healthcare is NOT the doctors, it is INSURANCE and crooked attorneys (malpractice suits that are not legitimate).

  426. you all look good right now because of a Medicaid expansion, having Kaiser lie like they always because they stand to gain the most from the healthcare monopoly since the free clinics are closing left and right and the insurance companies that stand to gain even more customers just as long as they go along with no regulations on how they adjust prices…yes you look good now… but its a shell game … and IT WILL ALL CRUMBLE AND I CANT WAIT TILL YOU ALL START COMPLAINING TOO.

  427. Well, your argument has said it all. If Republican power drunks are not governing, they obstruct and become the most draconian people ever. It’s better for president Obama to behave diplomatically than to wage another war and spend another trillion fighting Russia and Iran. The only shortsighted politicians that have destroyed US economy are Republicans. You extremists do not use your brain, you use your emotion to act. No wonder why you racists have been in the centre of every economic crisis in the US. Farsighted politicians thinks before taking actions and the brainless takes actions before they think.

  428. Everybody knows the Obamacare numbers the President was promoting were blatant lies. Immediately after this, the insurance commissioner in Georgia released ALL of the numbers for Georgia. While it was true that approximately 200,000 enrolled in Obamacare on the healthcare exchange, only 50% of those actually paid for policies. It further states that as a nation, only 20% of the 8 million enrolled actually have paid. Basically 100,000 people in Georgia have insurance via the healthcare exchange. HOWEVER, telling the entire story – the commissioner stated that 400,000 people in Georgia have LOST their health insurance due to Obamacare!! Now Obama, are you still wanting to claim victory and embarrass yourself publicly even further?

  429. We have checked it out and found out people like you are just few and far between or just straight up liars …expanding Medicaid is not a “victory” is a symptom of a whole bigger problem that WILL comes back to bite us. People like you are the death of this country…. still haven’t read the bill AFTER it was passed and tons of people ARE NOW just finding out what’s in it

  430. What were you thinking Jim? You actually were taking care of yourself?! That is criminal in a socialist land. Now give them all your money and never think or act in your own interest again. They will take care of you. Trust them.

  431. But then, that would mean he would have to tell the truth, which goes against the core foundation of the right-wing in America…

  432. You and Connie are absolutely right, Jen. This law was so hastily thrown together, it didn’t stand a chance. The unwravelling WILL occur, but folks like Mark will continue to support it and the liar in chief who shoved it down our collective throats by blaming someone or something else, I guarantee this is what happens.

  433. The insurance companies all say they have the numbers on how many have paid, what ages they are, how many were previously uninsured, yet obama still has no idea how to get these numbers to us. Funny how the media never mentions this and just back him up.

  434. I have spoken to a few people who have signed up, and used the medical care, they were shocked by the costs of medical care until they reach their deductible, so much so, that they cannot afford to pay for both the doctor visit and the continuing insurance. This is the straw that breaks the camels back.

  435. You are the typical lib!! Clinton had Republican House AND Senate when he made that supposed “surplus”! Bush had Democrat House and Senate when the “bubble burst” and the bottom fell out! And as far as “leadership” Bush didn’t have Putin and Iran walking all over him and laughing at him!! I’m also not blind enough to not see that it isn’t just one party causing the problems and you are the “idiot” that isn’t smart enough to see what is right there in front of you!!

  436. They’ll use the tax penalty paid by those electing to not buy the rip-off health
    insurance (because of jacked up premiums/co-pays) to pay for the
    “spike” in Medicaid recipients, but the problem lies therein will not
    be enough of a tax collected to pay for it, and the tax will rise and rise,
    bleeding people who cannot afford health insurance, don’t want to get ripped
    off, or just plain don’t want health insurance forced on them by socialists
    like Obama.

  437. “Obamacare is predicted by the Institute of Medicine to save 22,000” The one word to pay attention to is PREDICTED!!! What else that this administration or the government as a whole PREDICTED ever worked out?? As far as I can see the “misinformation” about this is coming from this administration!

  438. Ron Bell, you’re a conservative TROLL. However, imagine if president Obama was a Republican, what would you draconian guys do?…sure it took George W. Bush 8 years to destroy a surplus economy he inherited from Democratic president Clinton. In that same 8 years, he only created 1 million jobs. Why is Republican administrations responsible for every economic crisis in the US?…is it because you idiots are stupid or you don’t have leadership quality?

  439. Obama said it didn’t fix healthcare, but made it better. For who? The deadbeats? The illegals? Because it sure and heII did not make it better for the middle class in which he vowed to help! The only help he gave the middle class was him helping himself to their money and to provide shovel ready jobs to clean up all that BS he spews out!

  440. What NONSENSE! Government health care SAVED MY LIFE after my insurance company SENT ME HOME TO DIE. You can espouse your opinions and theories all you like but I speak from COLD HARD EXPERIENCE and those arguments are unlikely to convince me that I’d be better off DEAD. There is simply NO CREDIBLE REASON why we cannot do what EVERY OTHER INDUSTRIALIZED NATION is somehow able to do.

  441. NO health insurance will pay for you to see ANY doctor you want and pay 100% of the bill. They never have and it has nothing to do with the ACA. At your income, you qualify for highly subsidized insurance so it IS affordable, so stop lying about the premiums “killing” you. You and the GOP had over 10 years to propose a workable system and have offered Americans NOTHING except the status quo: People denied insurance because of existing conditions or policies cancelled the minute they are used. Vague assurances of some GOP “plan” are just stalling tactics to gut the ACA.

  442. You can write whatever you want to write. The ACA is working just fine. I signed up, picked my doctor, has been seen by him on three different occasions with ease. And so have many people I know. I feel sorry for these Faux News empty heads on here. Check it, you might just be surprised what these lunatics spewing all this spin are up to. Many of them have insurance through the ACA.
    Say all you want about the law, it is here, it is helping people and it will be here for the long run….

  443. Too bad this is a Republican program.

  444. Mark, you want to sit there and call some one a liar and paid commentator when all you are doing is spouting the liberal B.S. and calling everyone that disagrees with Obama a “racist”! Guess what, the race card has been over played by the MSM and doesn’t have much meaning anymore! There are alot of news stories out there about exactly what Jen is talking about and when ever some one talks about them people like you all of the sudden come out from under your rock and start with the “race card” B.S.!! Go back under your rock and pull the blanket back over your head!!

  445. Conservatives don’t understand cause and effect.

  446. Krap put an Obamacare bullet in my head!!!

  447. More blatant speculation from the right wing. What will he say if and when it is successful?

  448. disqus_TTD70dZY1J | Apr 24, 2014, 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm |

    well if it is so wonderful, why not have everyone sign up, including your president

  449. American Ukrainian | Apr 24, 2014, 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm |

    No, this plan is not to save lives, it is to destroy lives!!!!! Wait until you are under 65 and sick. See how well you will be treated especially when there is a shortage of specialized doctors and a RN will be attending to your illness. Good luck!!!! That is why the “Death Panel” of non-medical members will be determining the type of care or services you will receive. It you have 4th stage cancer, it is incurable without Chemo and radiation and if survival is less than 90% cause the treatment is very, very expensive, have a nice visit with the end of life team. Only healthy people will be treated or long waits like in Canada for non emergency procedures.

  450. Employer mandate ILLEGALLY POSTPONED until after the next two elections. My number is good and the real crappola hits the fan in 2017. There were MUCH BETTER ways to help those denied insurance than throwing the baby out with the bath water.

  451. You’re correct. No health insurance pays for everything and never has. This is not new and has nothing to do with the ACA. What is your complaint?

  452. Obviously, the author decided to completely ignore the most recent CBO report, which says that; (1) the cost of Obamacare will be much less than previously estimated ($100 billion less over the first 10 years, and more after that); (2) projecting over 10 million people signing up in 2014; (3) number of uninsured already down 3%; (4) 28% of the sign-ups are under 34 (the number that assures the financial success of the program; and additional positive info and projections. The Kaiser Foundation study recently released says that 80% to 90% of the first month’s premiums have been paid (according to the insurance companies), and a significant portion of the remainder haven’t yet received their statements. Kaiser says that most of the rest are likely to pay their premiums since it’s unlikely they would go through the sign-up process with no intention of paying the premium.

  453. Wow, you have gone out of idea, right? the only person, a mythical, cave-dwelling being depicted in folklore as either a giant ora dwarf, typically having a very ugly appearance otherwise known as TROLL is you Connie. We won’t allow Republican extremists and haters of president Obama to continue spreading lies on this channel without reacting. Go to hell

  454. Yea, they played that one right on time.
    Even if it is true about him, his stance against the blm and federal land grabs is valid.

  455. Your 150 million is just wrong and an invented number. About 80% of Americans get their health insurance through their employer. They are not affected by the ACA. The ACA is helping all Americans particularly those who were denied insurance becuse of existing conditions.

  456. Try blaming Bush and racism, it works with calling everyone a liar too!!!!!!!!!!!

  457. Mark c’mon, you are not THAT STUPID?????

  458. There is no reasoning with a liberal TROLL like you Mark. Your only purpose is to spread propaganda!

  459. To RADICALLY change health insurance for 150+ million (a large majority will now pay much more, loose their current doctors and end up with nurse practitioners instead), cause entire industry’s to change (service industry now almost exclusively part time work only), for the sake of 20 million…..and a law passed by one party….there were much better ways to help those 20 million. But alas, ACA really wasn’t about that as much as it was and is a stepping stone to government single payer insurance and another 1/3 of the economy flowing through DC and the power that brings.

  460. Bill what’s sad is so many sheep believing every word from this fraud. He LIED to all of us yet you can’t see the emperor is NAKED!!!!!!!!!! WAKE THE F UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  461. Obama and his Democrats have done absolutely nothing to really help ALL Americans. While he spent many days on Trips, lying to everyone in many appearances in many Cities always cutting down Republicans, trying to tear down AND not ENFORCING our Constitution, . Working on GAY Marriage, Amnesty for Illegals BUT doing NOTHING for the ECONOMY, are JOBS. He has Increased the DEFICIT over $6 Trillion and nothing to show for it. Doubled the unemployment, welfare and tripled food stamps.
    Drawing RED LINES for what? He is really nothing but a non American Liar, and should be IMPEACHED.
    Now we find out he has been giving the Rebel Islamic Syrians WEAPONS AND Surface to Air Missiles
    and they are Terrorist. Also, his OBAMACARE is in real trouble, wait a week and you will see.

  462. NO they are not! MORON!!!

  463. So how many lives has it disrupted and how many of people like myself have had to take out loans to pay for their increase of out of pocket- my family plan deductible has risen from $6500 to $12500 alone and now the insurance only pays 80% of medications and only 80% on office visits!!! A small sales tax would have more than sufficed for increase in medicare that would have covered MORE than the amount that husseindontcare is tearing apart!!! Bill, you and Hussein don’t inhale, you suck!!!

  464. Hahaha, just because these are bigger states with more people doesn’t mean they’re depended on welfare. Check your stats because these states are paying most taxes to federal government. Their tax dollars is responsible for feeding Republican extremists and political obstructionists in red states. Are you in blind to the truth?…idiot

  465. You chose your premium, you chose your deductible…. what’s your point? (and 12K wouldn’t even cover it if you got appendicitis and just needed surgery and a 1 night stay in the hospital, let along going a “long way” to pay any bills)

  466. when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail

  467. Note to liberals! This is NOT a racist issue! Just because people disagree with you does NOT make them a RACIST!

  468. It’s all a matter of what we choose to spend our collective money on… $1Trillion for health care for those normally uninsurable who are a burden on those that do pay for insurance or $1Trillion for a war for oil and those that get rich off the suffering of war victims.

    Top War Contractors Among The Nation’s Wealthiest

    There’s the top 1% of wealthy Americans (bankers, oil tycoons, hedge fund managers) and there’s the top 0.01% of wealthy Americans: the military contractor CEOs.

    Obama lied, no one died. Bush lied, tens of thousands died.

  469. that is the plan . they cannot raise up the poor to the level of everyone else so they will simply drag everyone else down to their level.

    socialism. . . the religion of the truly feeble-minded

  470. Jen, you’re liar and a paid Republican commentator spreading endless lies on the internet. Your lies cannot convince any one here. Go find something better to do.

  471. The real nightmare will not occur until after the upcoming elections.

    When the employer mandates hit, people are going to be quite stupefied at the resulting unemployment and underemplyment figures.

  472. Really??? California, New York, Michigan, and Illinois have the most people on welfare, most in violence, and most unemployed by population. They have the most bankruptcies. All of which are blue states run by democrat governors. Seems to me your bigotry is making you the most ignorant moron!

  473. Mark, as a woman…I really resent the overbroad statement you just made. The ACA is a travesty to all AMERICANS, not just the ones that you have so nicely put in hyphens. It will hurt the poor and the middle class mostly and it is not sustainable. Can you think for a minute instead of feel? I am a poor woman and this new insurance is killing me…it doesn’t cover what I need, it is too expensive….out of pocket including premiums is over $12K a year…I only make $28K net….and I can’t go to the doctors that I know and like. How is not liking a very bad law hateful? If three people lose their health insurance for one, how is that even right? There are other ways to do this, and putting the federal government, including the IRS, in charge of the rules of health care…and they are in charge…it is by their law…is not the answer. And the money that has been wasted in implementing, could have fed the poor for years. They are solvable, yes, but not by the government taking over and controlling the industry. And this is for my country. Health care is the most important thing an individual can have and now the government has corrupted it and we may never get it back. They’ve already ruined so many other industries…the final straw is health care. This is what will collapse this county, not my prayer of its failure.

  474. The level of misinformation and paranoia, not to mention hatred of the President that is spewed on this thread is disgusting. Obamacare is predicted by the Institute of Medicine to save 22,000 lives a year when it is fully implemented next year…that’s 22,000 lives every year. That is what we should be celebrating!!!

  475. If you tell your dentist that you will be paying in cash, they give you the actual cost of the procedure because they don’t have to file several forms and wait for what the insurance company thinks it should cost. As for my chiropractor, it cost me 35 dollars in cash vs, 95 dollars if I go through insurance

  476. SS has its own pot of money. That’s why they could “borrow” against it. The ACA is a law like any other, I think they are going to have trouble going after its funding. If they do, it will be the Republicans that do it, not Obama.

  477. Not every criticism is a lie. For me, it’s a disaster because I lost my previously good coverage and I can’t replace it with anything like it.

    I get to pay $12,000 a year before getting any real benefit.

    It is a good thing for the poor, but I can’t afford as good a plan as they get for free.

  478. Connie, you’re really stupid. Republicans states are the most poverty stricken states, hence even though they do not pay taxes but depended on federal government for everything under the sun, yet you idiots pretend as if you’re responsible for everybody in the United States?…your hatred for president Obama is unimaginable. Be human for one second

  479. Jim Z,
    It turns out that Nancy Pelosi was right. The rate of increase in the cost of healthcare has been decreasing in the last several years. If people start getting preventative treatment and go to PCPs instead of ERs, the costs will really begin to drop.

  480. I found out when I lost my dental that there is no such thing as dental insurance that pencils out, unless it’s aid for by your employer.

  481. I have to pay the premium, $5,400 a year, then the deductible, another $5,000 (+ $1,300) to get any benefit except “preventative.”

    Preventative is inexpensive, the real problem is paying for illnesses and emergencies, and that $12,000 will go a long way to pay any bills.

  482. Just wait until the employer mandate hits the fan. Funny how the dems postponed that (illegally) till after the next two elections. Wonder why if Obamacare is so good??

  483. It’s sad to see more lies about Obamacare. It has improved the access to health care for 19 million people in 6 months when you add up those in all of its programs. Will there be some bumps in the implementation of the insurance benefits? Of course. Any change this large would have some, but they are all fixable and the administration is determined to do so. If some doctors don’t want the extra business that this law brings, they need to take it up with the insurance companies. These are mostly the same companies they already deal with including Medicaid.
    Why not celebrate the many lives that are being saved by increasing millions of Americans’ access to health care beyond emergency room care?

  484. Same reason I pay cash to see the dentist and my chiropractor. So much cheaper.

  485. Let’s not forget where the idea for that mandate came from. I’m exempt from that mandate because there is no plan available to me that meets the guidelines.

  486. Yea this was expected, what did they think they would get with a government mandated health insurance? Honesty? Something easy to use? Since when has the government ever been associated with anything, and it went smoothly, and as-planned? Never. I don’t see how 8 million signing up, which we know is a fudged number anyway, but more people lost their insurance than those who signed up, so I’m not sure why they think that is a success. I had doctors telling me these things would happen last year.

  487. If I keep my new insurance I cannot go to a dermatologist unless I have a referral. Then, by the definition of that referral, it is not covered as “Preventative,” because only my physician can preform that. But I can go if I say I have no insurance and pay the bill with 1/5 of what one month premium would be for that insurance.

  488. Good points. Having health insurance is one thing. Having quality health insurance is another matter entirely, which is exactly why this trash was designed with a mandate.

  489. Be ready for the answer this November, and in 2016.

  490. I plan to drop my covered California plan because I will be have to pay $12,000 a year before getting any benefit and I now know that that $12,000 will purchase just about anything that might happen.

    And you have to factor in that there’s another signup period right around the corner. And you have to factor in that as the year moves along, we are closer to the point where that deductible can be multiplied by two.

    If you get sick in November and the bills bridge the first of the year, you have to pay that deductible again.

    If you have no health insurance you can sign up because they cannot refuse you, and you have that money you didn’t send them last year to pay any bills.

  491. Why are democrats like you think everyone owes you a living?

  492. A friend of mine has a similar problem. He has a harder time getting seen by his doctor under “Covered CA” than ever before, and most of his original specialists won’t even accept the insurance.

  493. Why are Republicans out of touch with reality, out of touch with the American people and hoping against hope that the American people would not be insured or have healthcare, hence praying for the failure of president Obama’s domestic policies. In another word praying for the collapse of their country. I have never seen people this hateful, this ignorance. According to this GOP/TP writer, these are the ACA future nightmares (1) lack of access to doctors, 2) failures of the system to verify coverage and pay claims, and 3) the incredibly high deductibles and copays on the exchange insurance policies. Am not going to waste my time debating these issues because they’re solvable and there is no evidence that these problems are there or might arise but Republican haters and racists are praying for these problems. Republicans, why can’t you find something better to do for yourselves and your country? These people hate everything that isn’t extremely conservative, they hate women, hate African-Americans, hate Asian- Americans and Hispanics. Republicans, grow up and accept the 21st century environment.

  494. They left out the part about services being much more expensive with insurance that does not cover those services.

    Example, an X-ray at my doctor’s office, with no insurance? $62 That same X-ray with your new policy that does not cover it until you met the deductible? Copay of $62, then they bill you about $120.

    MRI? No insurance, $440, with? Copay of $60 + as much as $1,200-$1,800.

    A doctor’s appointment for any illness or emergency? No insurance, $100, with? $60. How much did you save after paying that premium?

    Argue if you wish, but don’t call me a liar unless you go out and ask the questions I asked. You will get the same answers.

    Always say you have no insurance first and get that price, and you will never pull out your new insurance card.

  495. Greg, Some people just don’t get sarcasm.

  496. If I attempt a search for people on forums ranting over Obamacare and the actual amounts they have to pay, the results are explicitly confined to mainstream media opinions. Clearly, such screening was planned well in advance by extremely powerful and wealthy interests that control puppet companies like Google and designed this mandated atrocity to begin with.

  497. he is spiking the football because he fooled 51% of America in thinking that the ACA works and Washington is not going to rob it blind like SS

  498. The whole thing is a sham ! How can you tout the success of a program when it is based on court ordered compliance ? .

  499. Greg you’re a laughable idiot! If you really believe your asenine statement about Pelosi don’t ever vote again!

  500. There better be mental-health coverage included for those who don’t see straight.

  501. More lies from out Liar in Chief.

  502. Is there coverage for the brain-dead? There better be with 8 million subscriber’s in desperate need of that benefit.

  503. Quick! Distract everyone with a story about how Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy is a racist!

  504. This is blatant Republican propaganda. Nancy Pelosi said ACA would not increase costs. She said health care reform was a “Christmas present” for us. She is a very nice lady. I believe her.

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