Tesla vs. Porsche In China: Which Will Win?

Tesla vs. Porsche In China: Which Will Win?
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Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) executives have said that they see an opportunity in China that’s as big as their opportunity in the U.S., possibly even as early as next year. But is that realistic? Forbes contributor Jack Perkowski notes that this would mean Tesla will outsell Porsche in China, and he doesn’t think it’s possible.

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This week Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) revealed the starting prices for the Model S in Hong Kong, and late last month they revealed the starting prices for the sedan in mainland China. Of course China’s prices are much higher than Hong Kong because of taxes, etc., but Tesla is still projecting sales of about 8,000 cars in China this year. That’s according to projections from Veronica Wu, VP of China operations.

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Breaking down Tesla’s projections

Wu reportedly said Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) sold between 23,000 and 24,000 cars last year and that sales will double this year. According to Perkowski, if China makes up a third of Tesla’s global growth, then that means 8,000 cars sold this year. And if U.S. sales are 40% of all sales, then the automaker expects to sell 20,000 vehicles in the U.S. alone this year and more than that next year.

This means that if Tesla’s China sales are going to match those of the U.S. by 2015, then it would have to sell between 25,000 and 30,000 cars in China in 2015.

Comparing Tesla to other luxury automakers in China

He notes that some luxury automakers already have facilities in China, but Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) doesn’t—at least not yet. He says that almost 20% of luxury cars made in China are priced under $50,000, compared to Tesla’s starting price tag of around $121,000. He also said that of the 755,000 cars which were sold for more than $50,000, most of them were priced under $98,500. He included Audi’s cars in with his example.

He went further to say that there were only three luxury cars made in China with price tags over $98,500, and they are the Mercedes E300, the Volvo S8oL3.0 and the BMW 535 Li. Each of those models sold fewer than 15,000 cars in 2013, which he thinks presents a problem for Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA).

When looking at Porsche, he noted that it’s priced slightly above Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA)’s Model S because it isn’t made in China either. However, he said Porsche had 56 dealerships in China at the end of September, and it plans to grow up to more than 100 over the next couple of years.

Why the road in China won’t be easy for Tesla

The author suggests that Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) must compete as a sports car rather than an electric vehicle in order to be successful in China because EVs haven’t really caught on there in spite of government subsidies for them. Also the automaker hasn’t set up any Supercharger stations in the country, which he sees as a problem.

In addition, he notes that China’s market is very competitive and that Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA)’s car is still priced above most other luxury vehicles in China. He also sees distribution as being a big potential problem for Tesla. He notes that manufacturing vehicles in China would help reduce the cost of bringing the vehicles to the Chinese market, but he also said that like all other auto manufacturers, Tesla wouldn’t be able to own more than half of its China operation, which means that it will need to work “twice as hard to get the same top and bottom line results” from its sales in China.

China preorders offer a clue

One place that might give us a real clue about whether Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) can outsell Porsche in China is seeing the number of preorders the company has taken for the Model S there. We don’t know the exact number, other than the “several hundred” given by management a while back. Another question would be whether preorders have picked up since the price was announced.

Unfortunately these aren’t things we will know unless Tesla decides to tell us, and you can be sure that if the automaker makes an announcement about it, it will be because they smashed expectations.

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Michelle Jones is editor-in-chief for ValueWalk.com and has been with the site since 2012. Previously, she was a television news producer for eight years. She produced the morning news programs for the NBC affiliates in Evansville, Indiana and Huntsville, Alabama and spent a short time at the CBS affiliate in Huntsville. She has experience as a writer and public relations expert for a wide variety of businesses. Email her at Mjones@valuewalk.com.
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  1. There are a couple of issues with this article that I’d like to clear up. It says that “Wu reportedly said Tesla Motors … sales will double this year.” I think that’s most likely a misunderstanding. What CEO Elon Musk has been saying for some time is that they hope/expect to be at a production *rate* of 40k/yr by the end of 2014. They intent to ramp up to that rate, which means they’ll sell something less than 40k in 2014. I would guess around 35k, since their Q4 rate (6,900) would work out to 27.6k/yr.

    Also, of the three luxury cars listed above $98,500, how many did they sell in the US? Tesla sold somewhere around 18,000 here in 2013, and beat many established brands/models, so it’s reasonable to expect they could do the same in China.

    Lastly, to say that “EVs haven’t really caught on” in China ignores the fact that they haven’t really caught on in the US either. The Model S truly is a unique car in that it provides sports car performance and luxury car comfort from a drivetrain that’s fully electric and has as much as 265mi of range, more than double any competing EV at any price.

    Disclaimer: All of these numbers could change on Monday when Tesla releases their Q4 results and updates guidance/projections. Also I am a very happy owner of a Model S and TSLA stock.

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