Value Investing

How Earnings Grow While PE Ratios Contract in Sideways Markets: Vitaliy Katsenelson’s Presentation to the Las Vegas Value Investing Congress

By: greenbackd

I’m back from the Value Investing Congress in Las Vegas. There were a number of outstanding presentations, but, for mine, the best was Vitaliy Katsenelson’s epic presentation based on his Little Book of Sideways Markets.

12 years into this sideways market, valuations are still 30% above the historical average, while in 1982 they were about 30% percent below average! Also, historically, stocks spent a good amount of time at below-average valuations before sideways market turned into a secular bull market.

Vitaliy shows that genuine 1930s-style bear markets are rare. Most of the time the market trades sideways or up.


Since 2000, the market has traded sideways. Vitaliy expects this to continue for another decade:


Read GDP growth has been consistent. There’s little relationship between earnings growth and stock returns.


Real GDP growth is very similar in both sideways and bull markets…


…the difference in returns is the change in valuation.


Don’t chase stocks. In the absence of good stocks, hold cash.


Sideways markets contain many cyclical bull and bear markets.


During a sideways market, asset allocation is not as important as stock selection.


See the full presentation Active Value Investing: Making Money in This Sideways Market (.pdf)

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