Value Investing

Warren Buffett, Jeremy Grantham, and John Hussman on Profit, GDP and Competition

By: greenbackd

Ratio of Corporate Profits-to-GDP and Returns (1947 to Present)

Source: Hussman Weekly Comment “Taking Distortion at Face Value,” (April 8, 2013)

Warren Buffett, 1999

[F]rom 1951 on, the percentage settled down pretty much to a 4% to 6.5% range.

In my opinion, you have to be wildly optimistic to believe that corporate profits as a percent of GDP can, for any sustained period, hold much above 6%. One thing keeping the percentage down will be competition, which is alive and well.

– Warren Buffett, Mr. Buffett on the Stock Market (November 1999)

Jeremy Grantham, 2006

Profit margins are probably the most mean-reverting series in finance, and if profit margins do not mean-revert, then something has gone badly wrong with capitalism. If high profits do not attract competition, there is something wrong with the system and it is not functioning properly.

– Jeremy Grantham, Barron’s (c. 2006), via Katsenelson, The Little Book of Sideways Markets.

John Hussman, 2013

In general, elevated profit margins are associated with weak profit growth over the following 4-year period. The historical norm for corporate profits is about 6% of GDP. The present level is about 70% above that, and can be expected to be followed by a contraction in corporate profits over the coming 4-year period, at a roughly 12% annual rate. This will be a surprise. It should not be a surprise.

– John Hussman, Two Myths and a Legend (March 11, 2013)

h/t Butler|Philbrick|Gordillo and Associates

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