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Pakistan And China Agree 8 Submarine Deal

The two nations made an announcement this Thursday, purportedly concerning the sale of 8 submarines from Beijing to Islamabad.

Analysts claim that the deal is the largest defense agreement China has made with a foreign country. Details about the multi-billion dollar deal are lacking, and government officials did not confirm the amount of money involved.

Pakistan And China Agree 8 Submarine Deal

Provisional deal agreed on defense cooperation

Despite a vague statement released by Pakistani officials, the composition of the Chinese delegation suggests that the deal is an important one.

“Pakistan and China have reached an understanding on matters of defense cooperation relating to Pakistan Navy,” said Pakistan’s Finance Ministry following a meeting with the Chinese. “Financial arrangements to this effect were also concluded.”

In April, the defense ministry briefed the Pakistani parliament on a potential deal to acquire Chinese submarines. The Financial Times ran a report later that month citing a retired senior official who claimed that the deal could be worth $4-5 billion.

Finance Ministry sources stated that payments would be made in 4 installments, and the submarines will be delivered over the next few years. Terms were agreed between Pakistani Finance Minister Ishaq Dar and Xu Ziqin, President of Chinese state-owned China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Company Limited (CSOC).

CSOC is part of China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC), which manufactures, repairs, leases and sells military vessels.

Vague press release short on details

Chinese Ambassador Sun Weidong also attended the talks, alongside Pakistani Finance Secretary Waqar Masood and Economic Affairs Secretary Saleem Sethi. Although an agreement was reached, it must still be approved by officials in Beijing. Once they do so, a formal agreement will be signed.

As a result, the subsequent press release was short on details. Finance Minister Dar said that the visit of the Chinese delegation would strengthen ties between the two nations.

Rumors of a submarine deal have been heard since Chinese President Xi Jinping visited Pakistan in April. According to India Today, Pakistan has been negotiating the sale of Chinese submarines since 2011, and although no details have been specified, the publication reports that Yuan-class Type-041 diesel-electric submarines were under consideration.

IHS Jane’s Fighting Ships describes the Yuan class as a diesel electric attack submarine.

Further evidence of strong ties between Pakistan and China

The press release included a quote from Xu in which he thanked Dar for his involvement in the negotiations, and held them up as an example of the strong friendship between the two nations.

Further evidence is provided by the signing of last month’s agreement for the construction of six patrol vessels for the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA). Four ships are to be built in China, and two more constructed in Karachi, under the terms of an agreement signed by Pakistan’s defense production ministry and the China Ship Trading Company (CSTC).

Pakistan and China enjoy a close relationship which makes Beijing the biggest supplier of military hardware to Islamabad. The two nations also work together to manufacture the J-17 Thunder warplane.

The sale of 8 attack submarines is sure to be a concern to Pakistan’s historic enemy, India. Politicians in New Delhi are growing increasingly alarmed at increased Chinese activity in the Indian Ocean, and new Chinese-built Pakistani submarines provide another headache for India.

Will deal affect Pakistan-India relations?

Relations between India and Pakistan looked to be improving following the meeting of Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Indian counterpart Narendra Modi at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in Russia. However a spate of firing along the Line of Control, and the shooting down of an alleged Indian spy drone, have caused increased tensions.

It had been hoped that the accession of both nations to the SCO would improve relations in the interest of regional prosperity, but it seems that there is a long way to go.

Close cooperation between the two countries has previously provoked opposition from India. A proposed economic corridor from China through Pakistani-held Kashmir was denounced by Modi, concerned by huge Chinese investment in an area which India claims as its own.

This week, Pakistan’s envoy to New Delhi said that relations between the two nations should move from “confrontation to cooperation.” Abdul Baisit was speaking during an Eid Milan hosted at the Pakistani high commission.

“All problems between our countries, including Jammu and Kashmir, must be resolved through talks. Pakistan will leave no stone unturned to improve ties,” he said.

If India can demonstrate its commitment to talks, there may still be hope for lasting peace between the two nations. It must be hoped that past conflicts can be resolved in order for both nations to concentrate on social and economic factors.

 

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  • Rich

    Indian bystanders. Its coward. Watching Pakistani doing all the work.

  • Muslim Pope

    Gujarat and Gujarati killer Modi and other Hindu Orange extremists they are :
    filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
    slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
    they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
    Although they should know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

  • no BUDDY cares

    Hahaha.clean living Caucasian?? I highly doubt it. Your comment gave you away. No Caucasian says ” I ain’t no Indian.” I’ll leave it to the audience to decide your racial ethnicity lol

    Besides, I don’t get into arguments with uneducated, welfare-dependent suckers mooching off of the taxpayers hard earned money. You sir, are an idiot wrapped in a moron!

    Oh and one more thing my welfare-dependent jobless friend, go FUND yourself!

  • Azad

    Read the comments above for answers.

  • Rich

    Rat having fun with a COW

  • Sinamit

    Where have you got the data?
    Not only countries but also figures are too high to be true…

    Till 2012, top aid recipients are (Source ABC news)
    Israel $3 Billion
    Afghanistan $ 2.3 Billion
    Pakistan $ 2 Billion
    Iraq $ 1.65 Billion
    Egypt $ 1.5 Billion

  • Sinamit

    What has that to do with Indians being coward?
    If Pakistani army is maintaining terrorists then it should be curbed.

  • Sinamit

    Where have you got the data?
    Not only countries but also figures are too high to be true…

    Till 2012, top aid recipients are (Source ABC news)
    Israel $3 Billion
    Afghanistan $ 2.3 Billion
    Pakistan $ 2 Billion
    Iraq $ 1.65 Billion
    Egypt $ 1.5 Billion

  • Sinamit

    I see a PIG riding a Camel

  • Rich

    Yep

  • Rich

    Sure RAT

  • Sinamit

    Nah i’m veg but you do steer your camel with care in the Taliban areas

  • Rich

    No COW for dinner today.

  • Rich

    Yes Darling

  • Sinamit

    And then hands it over to good terrorists?

  • Sinamit

    Yes Camel

  • Sinamit

    Bimboo

  • Ali490

    India should not jalouse of Pakistan, because China and pakistan are old trusted friend, India has problem with every neighbor, India should concentrate on making toilet for there public because 60% of indian pee outside homes

  • Pakistan Worldtopten

    To all Indians here: Where and how does American taxpayer money come into a Pak China deal ?
    Learn some basic accounting.

  • Rich

    YOU

  • Rich

    Agree. Because Indians are coward.

  • Rich

    Agree.

  • Rich

    Really? Coward.

  • Axxa

    And RSS are killing ppl too in Gujarat in Mumbai burning alive Christians killing moslems don’t forget the golden temple massacre of Sikhs, u killed yr own leader Gandhi, Indira Gandhi by Sikhs in response to golden temple massacre & rajev Gandhi, interfering in pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Nepal, Bhutan, China, srilanka’s internal matters.

    You are no Angels!!

  • Azad

    Pakistan also falls short of the list of countries receiving the greatest amount of total foreign assistance form the US ? but India and Israel both make the list, with the latter in the top spot.

    Pakistan comes in at eleventh place on the list, with $57.3bn in total foreign assistance ? over $100bn less than the amount received by the top position holder on the list.

    Countries receiving greatest total foreign assistance

    Israel: $199.5bn
    Egypt: $121.6bn
    Vietnam: $118.9bn
    South Korea: $77.6bn
    Afghanistan: $76.9bn
    United Kingdom: $71.5bn
    India: $66bn
    Turkey: $64.4bn
    Iraq: $64.3bn
    France: $64bn
    All figures have been rounded off to the nearest decimal place.

  • Azad

    The news article is dated July 14, 2015. Source is USAID

  • Azad

    It is pertinent to mention here that Pakistan received most of the military assistance from the US during the superpower’s involvement in Afghanistan during the 1980s and then after 2001.

    The US non-military aid to Pakistan for the period 1991-2001 averaged just $75 million per year, while the total military aid during the eleven-year period was a paltry $7 million.

  • Azad

    In comparison, of the $44.4bn provided to Pakistan in economic assistance, $13.8bn is given to USAID programmes, while $13.7bn is attributed to the Economic Support Fund and Security Support Assistance.

  • Azad

    Indian economic aid is spread out over various sectors and programs, including child survival and health, development assistance, HIV/AIDS initiatives, migration and refugee assistance, food aid, and narcotics control. The bulk of this aid ($26bn) is provided to various USAID programmes.

  • Azad

    India biggest recipient of US economic assistance over 66-year period: USAID

    The United States, over the period 1946-2012, has given India the largest amount of economic assistance, while providing Israel the greatest quantity of military assistance over the same interval, according to data compiled by USAID.

    The data, which is inflation adjusted, shows India received approximately $65.1bn in economic assistance from 1946 until 2012, followed closely by Israel, which was given $65bn.

    With $44.4bn received as economic assistance from the US, Pakistan is also among the top five countries to receive economic assistance out of a total of 200 countries and regions.

  • akb009

    And Porki are busy kiiing people all over the world. All porkis are terrorist. What a shame to be a terrorists and international beggars..

  • OldSchollaminA

    These conceited terrorists, anti US, never would admit the TRUTH, all they do is HATE. Cowards!!!

  • hothead007

    SO WHAT? THEN WHY ARE THE $CUMBAGS NICH JATI RAPISTAN HINDU SUWARS BARKING LIKE RABID BRAHMAN HINDU DOGS AGAINST PAKISTAN

  • hothead007

    NOT TO KILL AMERICAN TROOPS, FOR THEY ARE THOUSAND OF MILES AWAY, BUT IT IS FOR THE COW URINE BOOZER, COWARD, CUNNING SAFFRON LUNDGOTIS HINDU TERRORIST, LUNATIC, FANATIC $CUMBAGS, IF THESE HINDU $WINES TRY TO ACT FUNNY

  • old school lamina

    @Nazir, the reason it was missed because it’s irrelevant, pure speculation. Listen, if the past hurts, you can either run from it or learn from it. Obviously you never learned from it. Now, if you can’t beat the mighty US, join them. Again, obviously you hate and never can beat them, so join them to bomb IS and all terrorists, not only in Pakistan but all over the world. TRUTH HURTS!!! Are you hurting,boy?

  • old school lamina

    @wshaik, Those are the facts you stupid piece of work. Hey, dimwit, I only sound like an idiot but you’re a stupid irresponsible coward, is that what your country and your religion teach you, to hate and be bitter with the TRUTH. So that’s KNOWLEDGE. You’re welcome!

  • wshaikh

    Ignorance is hazardous to your health. Please read facts, get some knowledge and then discuss an issue otherwise you sound like an idiot.

  • wshaikh

    Well, India buys arms all over the world. USA, France, and Russia. Why it bothers you when Pakistan buys from China or another country?

  • wshaikh

    Please open up your eyes and wake up. Denying the facts will make your argument fruitless.

  • http://batman-news.com Sally

    India was deeply involved in terrorism in Afghanistan and Pakistan through TTP to stop economic growth of both the countries. India is spending money of its high growth to continue terrorism and deny the economic development of Afghanistan and Pakistan. India has to be stopped and can only be done if Pakistan, Afghanistan and China bleeds India because India does not understand the language of negotiation because of pat by USA.

  • Sinamit

    Give a single reason not to worry about them.

  • Sinamit

    Your life is limited to wikipedia. Wake up get real.

  • Sinamit

    Paki or China is the biggest problem the world has.

  • Azad

    Uncle Sam you logic like Hindu RSS.

  • Axxa

    Indians busy in raping their girls on the streets as declared the rape capital of the world, why are they always anxious about paki or China get rid of yr home grown troubles first.

  • Axxa

    Right

  • NazirKAli

    Your comment misses one important point…China and Russia have not started wars whereas America breeds, nurtures, and weans warmongers, weapons and soldiers. Also, another point you missed out is that you people developed and tested the A-bomb and used it in August 1945. So, if this does not breed defensive/offensive terrorism…what will? Your government created the Islamic State when Abu Bakr Baghdadi was held captive in Gitmo for five years. Now you are bombing the IS……..Turncoats? Back-stabbers? Deserters? Call yourselves whatever you want to. Salams

  • R. Gupta

    Whatever China supplies to anyone is for Chinese purposes, not for helping the country getting the goods. These subs will be manned by Chinese and will patrol the petroleum lanes from the Arabian Sea through the Indian Ocean.

  • Muslim Pope

    Why your ugly a.. is worried about Pakistan and Muslims???

  • old school lamina

    @noBuddytwerp, what are you blabbing about? I ain’t no Indian. I’m an old fashioned, clean living Caucasian. Your hideous response to my pertinent comment is a sign of your idiocy. Pakistani twerp, get lost, you dimwit.

  • Brian Adams

    They don’t teach English in there. Sullu is just being silly. .. he will learn here on these boards. .

  • Brian Adams

    I don’t get it. Why Indians are so worry about Americans tax payers..

    Indians get the same amount of aid like Pakistan. Google it. Wikipedia is a blessing.

    I

  • Brian Adams

    Lol… and will probably throw him in a deal with Mexicans for the wall he wanted them to build… hahaha

  • Steven

    China is also buying businesses and properties in America… It’s called business.

  • Rajiv Mitra

    What is VAGE means ? sullu :D

  • no BUDDY cares

    A fair and insightful article. I hope MR.MOODY doesn’t lose his mind over this again and start bickering in some foreign country.

  • Uncle Sam

    Hum ! Their goes my tax $$$ for Pakistan… Now, that $$$ Pakistani buy China sub. Man !! Can some1 count how many knifes in my back…

    Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghan…whatever !.. Dang Muslim can’t be trusted.

  • no BUDDY cares

    India laid down the foundation of cross border terrorism in SE Asia in 1971. Pakistan and China followed suit. Well it’s about time India suffers for what it sowed back then.

  • no BUDDY cares

    LOL After reading your English comment here, TRUMP will put you on the deportation boat himself!!

  • no BUDDY cares

    My dear ENDian friend, no need to vomit out your frustration on this comment section. Time to look into the mirror?! Oh I guess that ship has sailed. Your grinding over this issue is akin to a monkey watching two humans eating bananas.

  • old school lamina

    Pakistan is very proud of their Cricket team and their Kabobs. But they ain’t proud of their undeniably breeding of terrorist groups in their own land. It would be a very unfortunate combination of Pakistan and the communist China.

  • Cliff Woodard

    What !!! India is not outraged by China selling arm to Pak, just when its America … TYPICAL ….INDIA is NOT OUR FRIEND

  • old school lamina

    What, two very traitorous countries agree to submarine deals. This two unsophisticated and sluggish countries would be scratching their heads in astonishment saying, ” what the f..k did we get into”?

  • Rajendra Rao

    First, get an education away from Madrassas. Prashant and Satyananda are not vague names, they are typical Hindu names. So Pakistani beggars got some subs from China! So what?

  • Alex Sal

    We are already giving money to China and India through business deals. Nothing new here. Trump will also deport Stinky Bindus and Porkis. :)

  • sullu2004

    hindu posting undert vage names, cowards

  • sullu2004

    both hindu hiding behind vage names

  • satyananda

    Well !!! American hard earned moneys is paying Pakistan to killed American troops,and for buying military hardware from China.This is because of Corrupted politicians ,that why I am supporting TRUMP. Go Trump Go,and also Anne Coulter….

  • prashant

    AMERICAN TAXPAYERS HARD EARNED MONEY WENT TO CHINA VIA PAKISTAN … ITS ALL ABOUT CORRUPTION AT WH LEVEL ….