Icahn Enterprises LP (NASDAQ:IEP)’s Carl Icahn says Bill Ackman is “right up there” in trying to change what’s going on in American business.

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Icahn: Ackman Trying To Change Things For Better

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well, you know, he called my office, and he just said, tell carl i forgive him. you know, you can say i have a fighting gene, maybe i do, but i don’t enjoy grudge fights. i don’t enjoy gratuitous fights. i fight to get something accomplished. my fighting with ackman is really sort of gratuitous fight at this point. he called up and he said that. then i called back and said, you know, to forgive is blessed, sort of laughed and i said, i forgive you. then we got talking about what i think are more important items about corporate governance. i think it’s so important in this country to change what’s going on. this whole arena. i will say bill ackman is right up there in trying to change it. the guys that i think are responsible for it, i don’t think they’re bad people, but, you know, they also have their agendas like marty lipman that gets tremendous ease from these guys he tries to keep in trench. he’s not a bad person. it’s the old thing the enemy of my enemy is my friend. i don’t need the money anymore. i’m doing this and i know maybe it sounds corny to you because i really think that this country could still be as great as germany. i grew up on the streets of queens and it’s done aiate thing for me and i’m trying to — i think my legacy is to try to change the situation. i don’t give a damn too much who like mess or doesn’t like me as i’m doing it. i guess warren is a little right about that. if i really cared about being in the social order or being in the establishment, you know, i wouldn’t do what i do.