Jack Welch, Jack Welch Management Institute founder, explains how a "split role" in executive leadership leads to "shopping" the company. Jack Welch was on CNBC today below are all the clips and computer generated transcripts.
Split Chairman & CEO Role? 'Dumbest Idea in the World': Jack Welch
our guest host this morning, jack welch founder the jack welch management institute, so many other things, former ge, ceo. how many board were you? none. you glefr did a board. you know what we talked about elan the cramer slrks ceo split up. andrew has been evolving. you were sure we should go the european route. no, i don't think so. there is no data there to prove it. people think how can you be, how can more governance ever be a bad thing? we made the point if someone is that good at making decisions, they should be the ceo. let me say something no one talks about in a split role, you get shopping where the employees shop the idea, you want to buy this company? how about you, you want to buy it? no, it's a mess. shareholder democracy can sometimes work, sometimes you can have a great dictator, only when the dictator is great does it work. that's the complicated part. when you got a leader that can make decision that jamie diamond was crazy. then dave cally. he was so unabashedly anti-splitting it up. but they said he didn't have enough financial acan you men acumen. he's deeply capable if finance. these whackos don't know anything about it. they're sitting down in maine in the corporate library talking about that stuff. i mean, that wroel crowd. so he learned to manage those quarterlys under the master. he managed the business, not the earnings. why would you ever miss an estimate? because you tell them what the estimate is. 30 days later you announce it. right. a endope can do that. it's more about managing expectations and the business. managing the business. not the earnings. is jamie diamond an other ceos safe for that, given that resounding vote or do you think iss and empg everybody comes back -- they can't go at jamie. that was the, that was crazy when they go after the best one in the game. then to go after dave on financial acumen. dave was there 20 years on thef, jamie is working in finance. is there a time and place for it, though? one of the things i think about. only to ask for a ceo. if you go back and look when jamie diamond, treks, it was a tron situation, bill harrison was the chairman when jamie was getting that done. i can see a time, for example. in six months when a guy was leaving? if jamie dup was going to step down, they had a succession plan, maybe you make him the chairman the next year or two to help out. a year. maximum. six month, preferably. okay. you give the guy the job. or the woman the job. they get the job. they make the decision. you don't like them, throw them out. i'm not against firing them. but this idea of splitting for corporate governance and then they make this mistake with cody i felt was bowl saying he has no financial acumen, he has more, he's forgotten more than the whole crowd will ever know. okay. we got to go. i'm just wondering, there's got to be a way of making sure that boards aren't just rubber-stamped of, you know, ceos. if the decisions are bad, the stock goes to held. if they're friends with, golf buddies with the chairman and ceo. do you think you want to fight on the board? you don't want fights on the board. you want smart people. if it all works well. cohesively. i sort of understanding. there are sometimes companies screwed up. that's when you want the
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